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remington peters blue magic need load data

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by lostandout, Jul 22, 2010.

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  1. lostandout

    lostandout Member

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    need load data for peters blue magic with 700x and rxp 12 wads
     
  2. Ahab

    Ahab Well-Known Member

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    If they are the real Blue Magics ... toss them in the trash!

    They turned into bubble gum in a hot barrel ... and quite often you would be shooting "cigars" ... ejecting 1/2 a hull!

    There is a reason Remington stopped making them!

    Disclaimer:

    Remington also made a hunting version with a different plastic ... they looked the same, but performed better.
     
  3. Borderland

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    I loaded a ton of these in their day with no problems but wouldnt you be concerned that the plastic has changed for the worse by now.

    The following is a load from an old Dupont catalog:
    1-1/8 shot///
    winchestor 209 primer (are they hotter now ?)///
    17.5 gr. "HI-SKOR" 700X (is it different now ?)///
    Rem RXP12 wad

    1145 FPS .... 8700 lup (lup not psi )

    Unless you had a few thousand of these and you knew the plastic had not deteriorated why wouldnt you just use a newer hull for safety and availability

    I would not recommend you use a hull as old as these must be

    Ken
     
  4. 333t

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    The blue magics are my favorite hull. I have been loading them for several years and have never had a case head separation. They are basically the same construction as the modern Remington Peters and they will load the same as an STS, Nitro 27, or Gun Club.

    The 700X recipe printed on the Blue Magic factory boxes called for 17 grains, RXP wad, 1 1/8 oz. shot and Rem. 97 primer for a 2 3/4 dram load at 1150fps. For a 3 dram load, they show 18 grains of 700X for 1200fps.

    They also show Red Dot loads on the factory box with the same powder weights and components.

    And those slick beautiful blue shells must give a competitive edge.

    Phil
     
  5. OldRemFan

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    Lyman Shotshell Reloading Handbook 4th Edition has a few pages of different loads for the Blue Magic hulls.
     
  6. lostandout

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    i have never had one come apart or get soft
     
  7. skeet100

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    If all Trap was shot with those Blue Magic hulls there would never be any missed shots.... and it would be boring....

    So yes 333t you do have quite the edge... :)

    The above advice about using STS data is correct... and 700x will move it on down the barrel...
     
  8. lostandout

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    i shoot them witha diffrent wad i think they break 5 birds just coming out of the box
     
  9. dontate

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    I vote for tossing them out. They never worked very well when new much less now that they are at least 25 years old. Get some gold nitro hulls and load the same specs. You will never have any problems.
     
  10. kd185

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    the blue magic are my favorite hull
    all most out of them
    i have some ive probable reloaded a dozen times
    never had a separation or any go soft on me
    i use the claybuster waa wads or the winchester version and they work great
     
  11. cubancigar2000

    cubancigar2000 Well-Known Member

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    Great hulls, no worries
     
  12. dhg

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    Are you talking about the Peters hull with the black lettering or the newer Peters hull with the white lettering?
     
  13. Doug Briggs

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    If these are the shells that were new 25 years ago they came in a white box with black lettering. Used 1 1/8 shot, 16 grains 700X, Federal 209A primer,and windjammer wad. Roughly a 1150 fps load.

    After 4 or so reloads they will break in half and you will shoot a slug or the plastic will lodge in the barrel. Then you need to force a used wad down the barrel backwards to dislodge whats left of the the shell and delay your squad for 30 minutes. No one in their right mind will ever lend you a gun.

    Throw them away. Shoot something else. If you insist on using them, shoot skeet.
     
  14. shot410ga

    shot410ga Well-Known Member

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    700X and Blue Magic hulls do not mix. You will leave part of the hull in the barrel using 700X. Bad idea. Been there and done that......
     
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