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Remington 1100 Barrel vs. 11-87 Barrel

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by HotRodA10, Jul 3, 2011.

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  1. HotRodA10

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    I have a Left Handed Remington 1100 3" magnum gun, and I'd like to get a shorter barrel so I can shoot skeet doubles with it. Left-handed barrels are somewhat hard to come by so I did a little research to see if barrels from an 11-87 would fit an 1100. I have found sites that say both yes and no. I've also read that Remington says they do not for legal/liability reasons, but some replies on other forums say they will, and a few people have been shooting with this configuration for quite a few years. Does anyone have any knowledge or experience with this? Thanks.

    Rod
     
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    Thank you for your reply. Is your answer based on experience with trying this?

    Rod
     
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    This question comes up fairly often. If you do a search of past listings you will find several threads.

    Short answer is "most" of the time 1100/1187 barrels will work either way, but you may have to use an 1100 fore end with an 1100 barrel, and a 1187 fore end with an 1187 barrel. The "most" comes into play because there is some variation in the location of the groove for the O-ring. If you get a 1187 barrel with the O-ring seat at one extreme of the tolerance and the O-ring groove on the magazine tube of your 1100 is at the other extreme, it may not seal well. Two O-rings is the usual solution.

    Michael Goines
     
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    Officially they will not interchange.

    In reality, Michael has it covered, above. It's a roll of the dice. Might work fine, or it might not.

    One additional point, though. The 1187 and late 1100s have a different forend cap retention system from earlier 1100s. The earlier 1100s used a ball detent in the forend. The late 1100s and 1187s use a cap with internal teeth that engage a plastic plug that protrudes from the mag tube. The workaround is to put a rubber o-ring under the forend cap, which acts like a soft lock washer.
     
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    I don't think it would be a handicap to shoot skeet with a 30" barrel. Many skeet shooters are going to 30" and even 32" barrels on over and unders. I would shoot the 30" and have fun with it.
     
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    The 1187 also has a larger extractor notch to accomodate a thicker extractor in an 1187 bolt. This WILL hang up in an 1100 barrel - eventually - when you least expect it - like when you're straight with just that last pair of doubles on post 7....

    As a rule, the 1187 barrel interchanges on an 1100 better than vice versa.

    My experience.

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    An 1100 magnum will not cycle with target shells. The gas port and action are designed for magnum or heavy 2 3/4" shells
     
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    The question is if an 1187 barrel will work on an 1100 receiver. Therefore the extractor and extractor slot issue is a moot point. The 1187 barrel has a wider slot, so it will work fine with the thinner extractor on earlier 1100s. Late model 1100s actually use the 1187 extractor.

    An 1100 Magnum BARREL will not cycle light loads. But that's not the issue here.

    An 1100 Magnum receiver won't care what barrel is on it. The only difference (except for some very, very early 1100s) is the action sleeve weight. The Magnum models have a heavier action sleeve. The non-magnum 1100s and the 1187 use the lighter sleeve. This is not an issue with barrels for light loads. In fact, the softest shooting trap or skeet gun is a trap or skeet barrel on a magnum action with the heavier action sleeve.
     
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    The barrel I have in mind is an 11-87 barrel that is capable of shooting 2 3/4" or 3" shells. Will this barrel in combination with my 1100 Magnum cycle target loads okay?

    Rod
     
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    Yes it should. If it doesn't, replace the recoil spring with a standard 1100/1187 spring. I'm not sure there uis a difference, but who knows what Big Green did back in the day.

    The gas ports on an 1100 and 1187 barrel are not exactly in the same place, so heed the other advice about forearms, etc. if the barrel replacement isn't a "drop in" replacement - but it should work. If you stand an 1100 and an 1187 up side by side with the barrels removed, you will see the o-ring detent on the magazine tubes are positioned a little differently.

    I used to shoot my 1187 barrel off my 1100 trap all the time for skeet (shorter bareel w/choke tubes). Worked fine. But the 1100 barrel would not fit on my 1187. The guns were manufactured about 20 years apart - something was different - wouldn't even slide into the receiver.

    As for the extractor, just trying to explain soem subtle differences between the two barrels that can cause issues when trying to go back and forth.
     
  11. Joe Potosky

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    All have given you all the information you need, but...

    I prefer a 30 inch barrel for skeet doubles. I like it over the standard 26 inch barrel.

    If you shoot it in a regular round, a little practice on station 8 is recommended before hand if using it in a shoot.
     
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    Excellent. I think I'll go ahead and purchase the 11-87 barrel and give it a try.

    Rod
     
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    There is no difference in the recoil springs .

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    BTW, a bit off topic, but in case anyone is curious, the above applies to the 12ga models only.

    Barrels WILL NOT interchange between the 20ga 1100 and 1187. Also, the action sleeve for the 20ga models comes in three styles. These are, from heaviest to lightest, 1100 Magnum, 1100 non-magnum, and 1187. The 1187 20ga action sleeve is actually skeletonized, and it requires an addition seal activator. Because of this, the 1187 20ga has a bit sharper recoil impulse than the 1100 20ga models, with the 1100 20ga magnum being the softest. Recoil is actually low with an 20ga Rem auto, but there is a slight difference that can be felt. The reason for this is that some of the recoil energy is being momentarily stored in the action sleeve and bolt. The heavier they are, the more the energy impulse can be delayed over time. The technical term is "dwell time".
     
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    11-87 barrel purchased! Now all I have to do is wait for it to be delivered. I'm anxious to try it on doubles in two weeks.
     
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    Your 1100 fore end may not fit the 1187 barrel. The contours of the gas cylinders are different. Older 1100 fore ends usually wont fit the 1187 barrel. At some point in production Remington changed the inletting and most later 1100 and 1187 fore ends are interchangeable. You should probably get a line on an 1187 fore end, and if the barrel does not come with one, a gas cylinder collar. The gas cylinder collar goes between the 1187 gas cylinder (barrel hanger) and 1187 fore end. If you don't install the gas cylinder collar the barrel will move fore and aft. The gas cylinder collar is designed to protect the fore end from the gases vented through the 1187 compensation system. 1187 Target barrels are not compensated, but the gas cylinder collar is still used simply as a spacer. Some 1100 fore ends will work without the gas cylinder collar, but you won't know till you try.

    BTW: almost all of the synthetic fore ends are universal. 1187 SM (SuperMag) fore ends wont work unless you remove a couple of shoulders that are there to match the 1187 SM barrel witch does not use a gas cylinder collar.

    Michael
     
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    Hmmm,that's an idea I've been thinking about.... a synthetic stock that is. Good to know, thanks.

    Rod
     
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    Just received my barrel and it fits like a glove including the forearm. Now I just have to shoot it and make sure everything cycles okay. I appreciate all of the feedback on this topic.

    Rod
     
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