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Remediating biodegradable target "dead zones"

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  1. 45er

    45er TS Member

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    My sporting clays club changes target presentations every time Haley's comet passes, whether they need to or not. Consequently, large, ugly areas where the targets are accumulating on the ground faster than they can biodegrade or the grass can cover them. Does anyone know a credible source of information on how one could go about rehabilitating these ugly areas? Could they be disked into the ground and treated with something to help the vegetation recover faster? Do they raise the pH of the soil beyond a healthy level for grass, or even weeds? Thanks.
     
  2. hmb

    hmb Well-Known Member

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    Next time you are at the club read the warning label on the box of bios. It says it will lower the PH due to sulfuric acid content. It tends to kill all vegatation. You can combat this by treating the soil with lime. HMB
     
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    Get some samples of soil and take them to your local Co OP. They will tell you how much lime you need per acre. It will be a lot. This stuff is
    "evironmentally acceptable", not friendly.
     
  4. W.P.T.

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    I think I would get a hold of Phil Murrey from White Flyer and see what if any suggestions he might have ... This does not appear to be something that just popped up and Phil is usually right on top of things or has a connection for someone who is ... Cut through the chase and go right to the man who would probably have the answers you are seeking or be able to get them for you ... WPT ... (YAC) ...
     
  5. phirel

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    Lime works fine for getting the pH up a little past 7 for happy plants. Lime is an acceptable treatment for reducing lead contamination in the shot fall area. Lime is cheap and lots of fun to apply by hand, but do not toss a can of lime into a strong head wind.

    Pat Ireland
     
  6. Frank C

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    from the White flyer web site

    "Warning: White Flyer © targets are biodegradable. Over time the byproducts of the degradation can affect soil PH and vegetation growth. In high volume target areas, adverse soil impact can be avoided by raking up target residue on a monthly basis or by adding agricultural limestone to the soil if the PH decreases abnormally. Soil PH in high volume target areas should be checked bi-annually."
     
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    What Pat said.

    Lime will raise the pH (which stands for inverse percent free hydrogen, if I recall correctly.)

    Low pH = acidic

    High pH = alkaline

    pH of 7 is neutral.

    Slightly alkaline soil is good for growing things.
     
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    lime, pick up or spread out heavy layers of targets, throw down any surplus grass seeds found on sale at local nerseries. The name exscapes me now but there is a grass that you put down for the winter on your gardens, want to say it is winter rye? well we put down this a few years back and it grew great.
     
  9. Baron23

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    Its absurb that these things are considered "green". You can rake up regular pitch targets monthly also, and they don't poison the ground. PC appearance wins the day again.

    Cheers
     
  10. 45er

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    Excellent discussion here. Thanks to all for your input. I'll pursue the lime option with the club owner and talk to White Flyer as well.
     
  11. crusha

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    timb99,


    It's minus(Log) of Hydrogen ion conc....
     
  12. FRedmon

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    Take a look at this dead zone at the Ft. Bragg Gun Club.

    FR
     
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    I should patent adding lime to bio targets to neutralize them and get rich quick!
     
  14. phirel

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    buzz gun is correct. A pH of 7 is neutral, based on the ionization of water. Water should have both a H+ (acid) and OH- (base) concentration of 1X10 to the -7 power, so a pH of 7 neither acid or base. A solution with a pH of 4 would have 10 times more H+ than a solution with a pH of 5 and 100 times more H+ than a solution with a pH of 6, and 1000 more H+ than a solution with a pH of 7.

    Pat Ireland
     
  15. crusha

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    You know, I think the Oregonian hit on an idea above...
     
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    The First thing you need to do is stop using Bios. They kill the grass and with a little moisture they will also rust the machines. Please visit the above website to view the photos The first one was taken in about 2004 when we were using bios exclusively. The lower photo was taken in 2007 about 2 years after we stopped. We also used a Bobcat extensively to move some of the "bios" around.


    TB

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