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Reloading - when to call it a day

Discussion in 'Uncategorized Threads' started by balance365, Jun 19, 2007.

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  1. balance365

    balance365 TS Member

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    Ever had a day that just wasn't meant to be at the reloading bench? Sat down today at the 9000G, thought I'd knock out an hour ar two. What a mistake. Started about 10 shells in, first the primers started hanging up. Fidgeted that back around. Then started catching wads on the edge of the hull, fixed the wad guide. Then started getting the old hole in the middle of the crimp. Got that fixed. Did I mention that I haven't had to touch any adjustments on this press in almost 3,000 shells? Anyway finally after all that, said good to go, let's make some shells. Dang if I didn't catch a wad petal in the shot tube, breaking the wad, dumping shot all over. Oh well, spills happen. Alright, little clean up and away we go. Nope, shot stuck under the plate, caused the primer not to seat in the station right, and, blam, there goes powder all over. Clean that up, yep forgot that shell didn't have a primer or powder and around she goes. Now I'm getting ticked and there goes another wad getting hung up and there goes the shot all over again. Figured time to walk away, but I may have a few boxes of prime reloads for anyone that may be interested. OK now I feel better.
     
  2. Quack Shot

    Quack Shot Active Member

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    balance365

    It's just not your day!
     
  3. Pull & Mark

    Pull & Mark Well-Known Member

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    Now that you got it all out of your system, You will be able to go another 3,000 rounds or more before you have any problems again. Break-em all. Jeff
     
  4. Didreckson

    Didreckson Active Member

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    Wish I could not relate to all that. I loaded on a Mec (which I believe I understood) before getting my 800+ (which I think I am beginning to fully understand). Then of course, had to try various toys, handles, Automate, steel plate and then hydraulic (which I settled on and is terrific). The 800+ really comes out of the box to do a perfect AA, but I was goosey about those and standardized on STS & Nitro hulls, which required a couple of small adjustments to get a drop dead perfect crimp.

    I added all the updates Whiz offers and finally got the thing dialed in. Figured out powder drops which are not exactly per the book, but a new digital scale fixed all that confusion. Hydraulic unit works flawlessly, and the last two loading sessions have gone uneventful, which is a good thing. The first several loading sessions, I had all the small nagging issues that make you wonder why you like to reload.

    Hang in there. The light at the end of the tunnel is not an oncoming train, really!!!
     
  5. jeffprigge

    jeffprigge Active Member

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    gee !!! and here to think i thought i was the only one that this happened to , thanks you made me feel better
     
  6. School Teacher

    School Teacher Well-Known Member

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    I use a MEC Grabber and always lube the press and check powder and charge weights first. The tube that sits in the collet at station #1 needs a spray of Rem Oil and the collet needs a dab of gun grease rubbed in with my fingers around the outside where the collet is compressed on the down stroke.


    This prep routine lets me get all my shot and powder spills out of the way first and to check my crimps.


    If you get distracted for any reason while loading, it's best to call it a day.


    I listen to country music (Johnny Cash, Merle Haggard, Waylon Jennings, Willie Nelson and Red Slovene) while I load.
     
  7. Old Cowboy

    Old Cowboy Active Member

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    Some days it just doesn't work, something about the phase of the moon or the alignment of the stars---------I think?

    John C. Saubak
     
  8. dverna

    dverna Active Member

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    I finally gave up on my MEC9000. I feel your pain.

    Got a PW 800+ with case feeder, which I love, and a Spolar (from Keybear), which I also love (the Spolar I mean - Keybear is an OK guy but .....).

    Go to the Dollar store and buy a big cookie sheet to mount under the 9000 until you upgrade and watch the damn primer drop religiously.

    Don
     
  9. ricks1

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    Mec has the New primer feed tray get it and most of the problems are solved if you are useing the old style with the chain change the chain to the larger size like is on a key chain that will fix a lot on the primer drop but the best thing is to trash it and get the new type they sell for around 40 but it is worth it the new ones come with the new style rick
     
  10. Bob_K

    Bob_K Well-Known Member

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    Didreckson... "I added all the updates Whiz offers and finally got the thing dialed in."

    What updates would these be?
     
  11. Big Az Al

    Big Az Al Well-Known Member

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    Still loading with a MEC 650jr, Somedays I load a flat off shells no problems at all. Somedays I should stop before the chair gets warn. No rhyme or reason for that just that S*** happens.

    I have a grabber, that I have never been able to get comfortable with, just those extra moving parts, to much to watch out for.

    I loaded several truck loads of shell on a PW back when I was in HIGH School, that was a great machine, but a lot more then I need for myself, but that was loading for a group that made up a trap Trap CLub, great bunch of guy's, I hope they haven't already cleaned out the Happy Hunting Grounds! LORD BLESS 'EM all!

    I had the chance to pull the handle on a Dillion that one of my League Team members has, all the bells and whistles, and as he demonstrated easy clean up when crumbling a shell and spilling shot.
    Now that is a dream machine!

    Al
     
  12. CharlesR1100

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    I still use the chain drive 100 primer feed on my MEC 9000 w/ ATS. Took some doing with the Dremel, star washers and time, but it now is 99.99% reliable. Perhaps 1 in 2,000 primers (2 bricks) will not seat properly. If that frequent.

    Tip: I wipe down both the metal tray, the clear plastic cover and the base of the primers with a silicone gun cloth before placing primers in the loader. They move very smoothly.

    I also wipe the primer station seat. Primers can't wait to get in.

    The primer drop tube had a slight burr at the top which I removed. Use two star lock washers to securely fix the drop tube where you want it.
     
  13. skeet100

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    Thanks for posting when it happens to me next time I will know I am not alone in my suffering.

    I use a Mec Grabber and we, at times, have fought like men. I won.



    When Hillary re-distributes wealth under socialism will we be able to afford all new shells then ???

    Oh wait she will take the guns, then we won't need ammo. silly me.........
     
  14. Didreckson

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    I believe the "Whiz" enhancements were hardened primer ram, oversized knock-out punch on station 2 that works great on STS/Nitro hulls, plastic tubes for shot/powder drains, die cleaning brush on station 1 and oversized spent primer container.

    I also added counter and extended primer tray, but believe those are P/W issue, not necessarily a Whiz add-on? Not sure, but it all works nicely together.

    Whiz also sent me the blueprint for the 3/8" solid steel plate with the necessary holes for mounting the loader, hull feeder and hole for shell drop. I had one laser cut with extreme precision, and edges are smooth. I ran into problems finding the right pvc fitting, and he shot one out to me. A class act for sure!!
     
  15. TheGentleman

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    How funny it is to see this thread this morning. Last night I had a couple of small issues with my 28 ga. Grabber. Somehow the shot bridged in the drop tube. I noticed the shell after the shot drop station didn't have any shot in it. So after pulling out the top tube the shot decided to let go. Ok, take everything off and clean. Got everything put back together and pulled the handle down and shot went everywhere. I forgot to replace the drop tube. Walked away before I said or did something I would be regretting right now.
     
  16. dverna

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    1 in 2000 is 99.95%. But who is counting.

    Don
     
  17. FarmerD

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    Get an RCBS "The Grand" never have another spill. Also all updates are furnished free from RCBS. I have loaded on all and nothing beats the RCBS. Richard
     
  18. Jeff P

    Jeff P Well-Known Member

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    I'm still laughing WITH Doggai and his hornady.

    I have two 366s, and I can finish loading, put a cover over it and let it sit. Come back a few days later, pull the cover off it and NOTHING will work.

    How the hell does a loader who's various attachments are locked down with nuts big enough to secure a small bridge change adjustment by itself, LOL?
     
  19. balance365

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    Went down to the "redneck room" (as the wife calls it since its all guns and racing) tonight, sat down and had a long talk with the old gal (the reloader, not the wife), told her behave or else I'll have to start looking for someone new. Dang if I didn't run 400 shells with no problems, just pulled the handle 400 times. Sweet, sweet music. Any guesses on what tomorrow brings?
     
  20. CharlesR1100

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    O.K. 99.95% perfect primer drop. Wish I could do anything else that well.

    There is something to the care and feading of the reloader if we want it to work correctly each day.

    First thing is to get rid of the problems. To me it was the collet fingers losing their spring (after thousands of reloads) and not relaxing fully back. Shell base would get crunched because it did not go fully down and seat at station 1, the deprime station.

    The remedy was to remove the moving part that forces the fingers to close on the brass, but keep the fingers. My MEC deprimes as usual, but no longer resizes. The STS shells are fire formed in my K gun chamber anyway. So I did not need the resize function at all.
     
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