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Reloading the new gold medals

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by verypoor, Jun 30, 2012.

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  1. verypoor

    verypoor Member

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    My crimps are dished in. 18 gr 700x and a 12s3. The old ribbed hulls look perfect with the same components.The only way i get a good looking shell is with a tgt12 wad. Anyone else experience this?
     
  2. jmac_cope

    jmac_cope Active Member

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    I load the new Fed ribbed hulls using Red Dot and Green Dot with 12 S3 wads. PW 800+. I get very good, tight, flat crimps that are almost indistinguishable from factory crimps. Often times when changing hull bands, you need to make slight adjustments in the pre-crimp and/or crimp stations to get great looking crimps.

    JMAC
     
  3. tanda1

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    I had the same dished crimp results with 18gr Promo and 12s3's.

    I cut open a couple and it looks like the base on the new GM's are more concave than the old style, giving the case slightly more internal capacity.

    A 1 ounce wad did make a better looking load. But w/ 6000+ 12s3's on hand, I adjusted the machine to minimize the dish and left it at that.

    I haven't tried Green Dot in them yet. A bulkier powder might help.
     
  4. Macdaddy

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    Jmac......maybe you just have premium hulls that are trained for perfection ;)


    mac
     
  5. jmac_cope

    jmac_cope Active Member

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    I think you may have something there, Mac. They arrived at my doorstep, well trained with a no "lost bird" guarantee!!! works for me.

    JMAC
     
  6. Unknown1

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    Don't stuff the wad in as far as you do now. It doesn't have to sit on the powder. Push the wad in only deep enough that the top of the pellet load is only about 3/8" down inside the hull before the pre-crimp is applied.

    Keller
     
  7. verypoor

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    I have always pressed the wad down on the powder. Would leaving the wad up cause a delay fire?
     
  8. Pull Bang

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    Federal Gold Medal smoothies or ribbed

    18.2 grains of Clay Dot

    1 ounce of #8

    WAA12SL wads

    Winchester 209 primers


    Results = Very good crimps and when I do my part the target is reduced to an ink ball!


    Frank
     
  9. RobertT

    RobertT Well-Known Member

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    Seat the wad to the powder. Adjust the machine or find a more compatible wad-powder combination. Failure to seat the wad could lead to powder migration past the powder cup.

    Robert
     
  10. Unknown1

    Unknown1 Well-Known Member

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    Leaving a straight-wall wad above the powder will cause NO problems in a straight walled hull.

    Keller
     
  11. 1oldtimer

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    If it shoots good, don't worry about the cosmetic looks.
    Clyde
     
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