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Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by DBax, Jan 8, 2009.

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  1. DBax

    DBax TS Member

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    Im getting a Mec Sizemaster Reloader , i have a question ,, is there a differance between using a brass base hull and the other hull , the base looks like tin . . thanx Dean
     
  2. ou.3200

    ou.3200 Well-Known Member

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    The ones that look like tin and some of the brass colored ones are plated steel. AA, Federal Gold Metal and STS hulls are brass and perhaps some others.
     
  3. shot410ga

    shot410ga Well-Known Member

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    It's steel. And yes, there is a difference. The brass is about 500% better to reload. I won't reload steel.
     
  4. OldGoat

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    I quit loading steel because of the wear & tear on my MEC sizing collet and my aching right "loading" arm. The brass base and reloadability of Remington STS hulls carry the day. Other shooters seem to have no problem, but the steel base does not like to resize very well and tends to spring back. Regards, Ed
     
  5. DBax

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    thank you guys for the replys---the biggest reason im considering the steel , is at the practice range I shoot at , shooters are throwing them away , and its no problem getting them for free.very few brass , almost none are thrown out . . does this mean that steel is not good for reloading , or is it because your buying factory shells with no need for the hulls..? ,, Dean
     
  6. jagrdawger

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    Brass is certainly easier to resize than the steel hulls. But, that being said, I reload Gun Clubs with no problem and they perform quite well. By using Gun Clubs for 1 oz loads and STS/Nitros for 1 1/8 oz I can tell at a glance what a loose round in the bottom of the bags is.
     
  7. jimrich60

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    I think you will find that there is a very good reason that the steel based hulls are being "thrown away" at your range and why it is hard to find brass based hulls. Steel base hulls often do not resize well, and place a great deal more strain and wear on your reloader. Many experienced reloaders simply do not consider these cheap hulls to be worth the trouble to reload, even if they are cheap (read free). The long term cost may be greater than simply buying good once fired hulls in the first place. They also do not have a integral base wad, and this can be problematical as a loose base wad can cause serious problems in your gun. Not likely of course, but it has happened and a few gun blow ups I have noted on this forum might be attributable to a base wad coming loose and sticking in the bbl throat. Check some the "blow up" threads for this discussion. I personally will never reload a hull with separate base wad. Many will disagree of course, citing years of use with no problem. But speaking for myself only, I simply will not take that chance.
     
  8. timb99

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    Yes, there is a difference...BUT.

    Remington Gun Club hulls have a steel base, reload exactly like Nitros and STS's, the plastic is good for plenty of reloads, and they are a one-piece hull.

    I do not reload them as many times as the Nitros and STS's.

    I have reloaded thousands upon thousands of Gun Club hulls without a problem.

    Yes, it is a little bit harder to pull the handle when you resize them. I use a Hornady 366.

    Other than that, they're a great hull and easy to get.

    The reason folks throw them away, is because those folks probably don't reload.
     
  9. Savage99Stan

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    I reload everything for trap on an old Grabber I picked up around 1980. It sizes the base with a collet die and gives no trouble whether the base is brass or steel. I try to stay away from steel bases when I'm making up a few huntin' shells or slug on an old MEC 600 jr. The steel shell bases stick in the sizing die.

    Does the sizemaster use a round die in the decapping station or a collet down in the base of the press for sizing? If it is a collet, I'd not worry too much about it. If it is a sizing ring on the decap station, I'd stay away from steel bases.
     
  10. 12Gagejon

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    if you use steel base in a sizemaster lube the sizing collet every 25 shells and it will last a long time and size easier Jon
     
  11. Quack Shot

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    No problem sizing steel heads on a newer sizemaster. I have loaded countless steel headed hulls on my 9000s, grabbers, and others. The collet sizer is the way to go, but the ring type could work in a pinch. I usually size the hulls on a separate collet style mec sizing tool before loading in non-collet presses. Mec provides the "size to" specs and I usually try to get just a little smaller than .810" for the 12ga. I've never broken a collet, knock wood, but I clean and lubricate my presses often. I don't notice much difference in effort between steel and brass either. I ALWAYS size my hulls. Some people prefer not to, but I've never had trouble chambering a shell because of an oversized case head. It's just one thing less to worry about.
     
  12. DBax

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    thanks for the info , some interesting things i didnt know
     
  13. jerryw

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    My Mec 9000 sometimes makes a loud poppihg noise when resizing the Top Gun hulls.

    Jerry
     
  14. Shady Creek

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    By loading 10s of thousands of Gun Clubs on my Sizemaster and 9000,when can I expect them to fall apart.

    Lube after every 25 shells,now that is funny.

    Go ahead and use them. It will be OK. GOOD LUCK
     
  15. RogerNRA

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    I use a Mec Supersizer and it actually takes less effort to resize steel base shells than brass. I have loaded a truck load of steel based shells, Gun club, Top gun, Kemen, Dianna, Winchester. You name it I have reloaded it. If I have had a problem I sure haven't seen it.......................Roger
     
  16. YUKONJACK

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    I've loaded too many to count Gun Clubs with my PW 800-B hydraulic setup made from Spolar with no problems at all.You just have to keep the loader lubed
    and it all works well and smooth.Yukon Jack
     
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