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?? Reloading Mishap ??

Discussion in 'Uncategorized Threads' started by Ed Y, Dec 1, 2007.

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  1. Ed Y

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    Has anyone ever had this happen to them? I just went down to my basement loading room to load up for the week. I use a Ponsness/Warren Platinum 2000, Remington STS hulls and Winchester 209 primers. When seating a primer, it went off right in front of me. There were no pellets under the primer to ignite it. I have the hull with the spent primer and no indentation in the cap. It's the first time that this has ever happened after loading hundreds of thousands of rounds. Any thought other than maybe I should be wearing a face mask. Fortunately there was no damage to my pretty face.

    Ed Yanchok
     
  2. richrob

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    Happened to me not to long ago, there was another thread on this discussing possible causes and solutions. -Rich
     
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    Ed- First, I am glad no damage occurred to anything or anybody. You are the only person with any direct observation that might be able to figure out what went wrong. Could the primer ignition push out any dent that may have been in the primer?

    Pat Ireland
     
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    It happened to me with the same exact reloader. I load in a very small room wow was it load but I was not hurt.
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  5. TOOLMAKER 251

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    Ed, I know it scared the hell out of you, I have been known to seat one upside down with a Mec 9000H and it never went off.
     
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    Has anyone ever had this happen to them? I just went down to my basement loading room to load up for the week. I use a Ponsness/Warren Platinum 2000, Remington STS hulls and Winchester 209 primers. When seating a primer, it went off right in front of me. There were no pellets under the primer to ignite it. I have the hull with the spent primer and no indentation in the cap. It's the first time that this has ever happened after loading hundreds of thousands of rounds. Any thought other than maybe I should be wearing a face mask. Fortunately there was no damage to my pretty face.

    Ed Yanchok
     
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    Happened to me not to long ago, there was another thread on this discussing possible causes and solutions. -Rich
     
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    Ed- First, I am glad no damage occurred to anything or anybody. You are the only person with any direct observation that might be able to figure out what went wrong. Could the primer ignition push out any dent that may have been in the primer?

    Pat Ireland
     
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    It happened to me with the same exact reloader. I load in a very small room wow was it load but I was not hurt.
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    Ed, I know it scared the hell out of you, I have been known to seat one upside down with a Mec 9000H and it never went off.
     
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    How about your pretty shorts?
     
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    I have had it happen once with a MEC 650. Scares the hell outofya.

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  13. Ed Y

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    Pat,

    The back of the primer is pristine. Not a scratch or dent in it.

    Ed Yanchok
     
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    Ed Glad you didnt get injured. Got your attention fast didnt it. Dave
     
  15. phirel

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    Ed- I am intrigued. Any ideas about how this happened. I am convinced from my crushing primers in a vice last Winter, that some sort of sharp blow is required to ignite primers. A slow crush will not do it. Can you see the position of the anvil in the primer?

    Pat Ireland
     
  16. Bob Hawkes

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    The one common thing so far between Ed's mishap and the one mentioned on a previous thread, is the Winchester primer.Thankfully, I have a decent supply of STS's on hand. It sure makes you think about wearing safety glasses while reloading. I wonder why every book on reloading that I've seen writes that in as a cardinal rule. Makes you wonder how dumb we can be at times.
    Good health and shoot well, Bob H.
     
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    The good part about the PW design is that the primer will be enclosed if it goes off....it will vent up thru the empty hull.
     
  18. phirel

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    Rick- I know of another accident involving primer discharge in a column of primers in a press set up to load pistol shells. There was a metal rod that pushed down on the primer stack and the person let the rod fall free for several inches detonating one, or some of the primers. He lost part of his thumb.

    The situation described by Ed is very different.

    Pat Ireland
     
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    I can remember with the old AA once-fired, I would often get a "thread" of red plastic that would let the primer fall out when depriming, but hold it in suspension. When I'd try to insert the new primer, the new primer would push the old one back in followed by the new one.

    Sure made a helluva mess in caving in the base, but I never, ever had one go off doing that.

    I did have a primer go off when I was depriming culled hulls. Sure made a mess on the front of my tennis shorts, but other than that, nothing signifcant.

    Whiz
     
  20. JerryP

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    I use Platinum and have trouble seating Win primers in Rem hulls. They often stick out just a little. Adjusting the press to seat deeper just makes the brass concave. The Rem primer is rounded at the top edge. The Rem hull has a ridge at the top of the primer hole that corresponds to that. It's easy to see. The Win primer is longer and squared at the top and must push past the ridge. I wonder if that could have cause the detonation.
     
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