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Reloading ban coming

Discussion in 'Politics, Elections & Legislation' started by Joe Potosky, Apr 17, 2009.

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  1. Joe Potosky

    Joe Potosky Well-Known Member

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    Senate must reject Inter-American Arms Treaty

    St. Louis Gun Rights Examiner

    Having backed off--for now--from the politically difficult push for a ban of so-called "assault weapons," President Obama hopes to assuage Mexican President Felipe Calderón's disappointment with a promise to push the Senate to ratify the Inter-American Convention Against the Illicit Manufacturing of and Trafficking in Firearms, Ammunition, Explosives and other Related Materials, a treaty signed in 1997, but never ratified in the U.S.


    President Obama announced in a visit here today that he will push the U.S. Senate to ratify an inter-American arms trafficking treaty designed to curb the flow of guns and ammunition to drug cartels and other armed groups in the hemisphere.


    Obama no doubt believes that ratification of this treaty is much more feasible than passage of a renewed AWB, and in that assessment he is almost certainly correct. There is, for example, no indication to this point of any organized resistance to ratification of the treaty. Although the NRA contests the Washington Post article's contention that it participated in the meeting at which the treaty was drafted, the NRA has not made clear that it has determined the treaty to be a threat to gun rights in the U.S., and thus something to be forcefully opposed.


    Even a cursory glance at the text should convince any gun rights advocacy group (or individual) that this agreement is indeed dangerous to the rights of American gun owners. This section stands out (emphasis added):


    1. "Illicit manufacturing": the manufacture or assembly of firearms, ammunition, explosives, and other related materials:

    a. from components or parts illicitly trafficked; or

    b. without a license from a competent governmental authority of the State Party where the manufacture or assembly takes place; or

    c. without marking the firearms that require marking at the time of manufacturing.

    I can only assume that this would mandate that anyone who reloads ammunition to save money (and rather a lot of it, given today's ammo prices) acquire a government issued license to do so.

    What about people who purchase incomplete firearms frames, treated under current U.S. law as inert hunks of metal, and complete the firearm themselves? Would that now require licensing? It certainly seems so. Unacceptable.


    The larger issue, of course, is that suddenly that which shall not be infringed would become subject to international regulation, and as restrictive as gun laws in the U.S. have become, they're still not draconian enough for the tastes of much of the rest of the world.


    That's their problem, and it needs to remain their problem.


    http://www.examiner.com/x-2581-St-Louis-Gun-Rights-Examiner~y2009m4d17-Senate-must-reject-InterAmerican-Arms-Treaty
     
  2. BT-100dc

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    Well, Joe, this is important enough to send it to the top. Thanks for posting this thread. Any infringement on ammo, guns or gun-related activity or interest should be opposed with vigor. These are the type of restictions that will make the shooters' lives more difficult. Please join the NRA and write your congressmen to oppose all gun-related laws, licensing, etc. Thank you, BT-100dc
     
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    I trust you all have sent a message to your Senator and Representative to oppose this Treaty when it comes to Congress for a vote.........Roger
     
  5. stokinpls

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    Change you can believe in,
     
  6. WIN12 MAN

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    Joe,
    Reloading ban ... ammo ban ..gun ban...it'a all part of the '' Obama liberal anti gun agenda .. no doubt they will push this and much more .
    We have the biggest fight of our lives coming. Win
     
  7. Savage99Stan

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    Where's trappy on this one? Shouldn't we negotiate away our rights to reload and just rely on the supply of factory ammo? What factory ammo? We can't get it for our store.

    Hey Trappy, are you here? What is your left wing response to this one?
     
  8. Leo

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    it is getting bad faster then we ever thought. good luck all
     
  9. claybuster38

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    There is a consperacy of some sort going on. I attended the Reno gunshow and the people were lined up for blocks to buy ammo. There is no powder or primers on the shelves at any store in western U.S. ---- Look out something is going to hit the fan bigtime.The manufacturers are aware of it and seem to be going along with it. We must hang together on this one. --- The tea party in Nevada Drew about 5,000 people. Any more input out there? Marv
     
  10. AJKohler

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    FWIW, it is my understanding that the incomplete firearm frame, i.e. the part that carries the serial number, is NOT treated under US law like an inert hunk of metal. It is treated as though it is the complete firearm. You need an FFL to get one, and need to go through the same rigamarole to buy one as you do the complete gun.

    Tony
     
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  13. WIN12 MAN

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    bunp this one ^
     
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