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Reload Recipe help please

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by Ferg, Mar 29, 2013.

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  1. Ferg

    Ferg TS Member

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    20ga reload recipe help.
    Goal is to get bit less kick for starting my son out shooting with his Mossberg Silver Reserve II O/U. Maybe 1100-1150fps
    Mec 600 Jr.:
    currently have 7/8 bar with #22 bushing. Would like to use IMR 700X since I have 1/2 keg left but will switch if necessary. Questions are:
    AA hulls
    209 primers
    Powder type?
    bushing size?
    wads?
     
  2. Bob Merkov

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    Ferg,

    Go to Alliant on line and down load their load recipes for the 20ga. they will have what you are looking for.

    Bob M.
     
  3. Ferg

    Ferg TS Member

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    Thank you
     
  4. Oregunner

    Oregunner Well-Known Member

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    Order a bag of Claybuster 3/4 oz 20 gauge wads. It comes with recipes. see link above. You can load them really light as they don't have to cycle a semi auto. I use 12.3 gr of Green Dot, which is about 1100 fps, in Remington hulls. A 3/4 oz bar and the right bushing will pay for itself soon. Mark
     
  5. waverider

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    If you do not already have a scale, order one when you order the 3/4 oz bar and bushings. The bushing chart is only a guide to give you a starting point. You need to "find" the right bushing by weighing the powder drops.

    The guides should have a bushing chart. Purchase one or 2 above and below the closest one.

    700X is a relative fast burning powder. At one time there was a 20 ga load 7/8 oz 1200 f/s load. But it has been dropped from current guides. Save it for your 12 ga loads or trade it for a slower burning powder.

    Jason
     
  6. Shooting Coach

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    I have loaded 3/4 oz in the 20 for many years. Target breaks are the same.
     
  7. JT 27

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    700X is one of the fastest burning powders. This accounts for the high perceived recoil. IMR 7625 is one of the slowest burning and has very low perceived recoil. I would suggest looking for loads with 7625, PB or Green Dot if you are wanting low recoil.
     
  8. cafowler

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    Ferg,

    I checked your spec's at the Hodgden website also, and found some nice <= 9,000 PSI 1150 fps loads. Pasted below, but the data may get scambled on this forum. The Hodgdon site is below so you can go do try your own searches;
    http://www.hodgdon.com/
    Lead Shot 20 3/4 oz. Internat'l Rem. 209P Fio. 20 12.8 8,100 PSI 1150

    Lead Shot 20 3/4 oz. Internat'l Rem. 209P PC20 12.5 9,000 PSI 1150

    Lead Shot 20 3/4 oz. Internat'l Rem. 209P WAA20 12.1 9,000 PSI 1150

    Lead Shot 20 3/4 oz. Internat'l Win. 209 Fio. 20 12.3 9,000 PSI 1150

    Lead Shot 20 3/4 oz. PB Rem. 209P CB 1034-20 13.9 8,400 PSI 1150

    Lead Shot 20 3/4 oz. PB Win. 209 CB 1034-20 14.2 9,200 PSI 1150

    Looks like a few really nice soft shooters in there. You might want to consider which components will be easiest to find in this market. I've used Intrntl Clays for all my loads, a bit more $, but nice and clean. It's not very popular which means you can always find it on the shelf.

    Hope this helps.
     
  9. Setterman

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    Do your son a favor and trade the Silver Reserve in on a Rem. 1187 or a Beretta 391. The Mossberg S.R.is one of the lightest, hard kicking, 20 gauges ever made.

    I picked up a used 20 ga 1187 for $429 at Cabelas.
     
  10. bigbore613

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    Dont use 700x with insert tubes. Jeff
     
  11. KY_TRAP_DAD

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    I agree with the 700X comments. Way too fast for a 20ga. Pick a "slow burner" and load it as light as you can.
     
  12. build4u

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    I worked up a load for my son and daughter for thier 391 20 ga. using International Clays 13.2 grains, 3/4 oz. Claybuster wad CB1075-20 Remington primer. The data is almost indentical with the Winchester primer. I have not Chonographed the loads they should be about 1180. I used 8.5 shot to keep the bb count up some.

    I just re read and saw it was for an over and under I would for sure drop the load down to the data for 1150 fps. You are on the right track going away from factory shells.
     
  13. Ferg

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    gonna try:
    AA hulls
    win 209 primers
    RXP 20 wads
    Unique 14.5gr powder

    should be around 1100-1150 fps @ ~8500psi
     
  14. Ferg

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    Thanks everyone! My son's first reloaded shell. Proud moment


    ferg_2008_0303.jpg
     
  15. Brady509

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    Excellent I love seen that. One of my earliest memories is load with my pops. Keep'em crankin with the little man.

    Brady
     
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