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Release Triggers

Discussion in 'Uncategorized Threads' started by widomaker, Sep 17, 2008.

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  1. widomaker

    widomaker TS Member

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    I notice that a lot of the shooters at the NE Grand shoot release triggers. I don't flinch but was wondering if there is some advantage to shooting them. If its worth a target or two I'll look into getting my Browning fitted with the release trigger. Is if difficult to shoot doubles with it. I've not been shooting that long and have never fired one.

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    Martin
     
  2. Recoil Sissy

    Recoil Sissy Well-Known Member

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    Martin:

    I've shot release triggers exclusively since 1990. I don't shoot them because I want to. I shoot them because I have to. If I could operate pull triggers, I would. The only real advantage to release triggers are for those of us who actually need them.

    Since you clearly don't need one, my suggestion is to stick with pull triggers unless or until you are forced to change.

    sissy

    PS: I shoot double release for doubles. I've carried a low to medium AA average for the last ten years. That's a two sentence way of saying, "double release triggers are just peachy (not difficult) for doubles".
     
  3. dan2116

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    Hi Martin. If possible you should try a gun preferably like the one you shoot now that has a release trigger in it.Shoot it at singles and handicap and see how it feels to you. The main thing I felt between a pull versus a release trigger was that I fallowed through more smoothly on angle targets with a release trigger . As for shooting doubles there is a definite learning curve with the mechanics of a double release ( let go and re-set as you swing to second target) but for me it was well worth the change and my doubles average was the most improved. Hope this was of some help.

    Dan
     
  4. Rico46

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    Martin, I had to convert from a pull trigger to a release trigger in 2008. My issue was a very nasty flinch that happened anywhere between 3 to 4 times per 100. In most cases when I flinched, I missed! Half way through the season, I had Alamo Shooting Arms ( Rich & Norb ) put a release in my K-80. My overall average in singles went up from 94 to a 97.5. I picked up two and half yard in the handicap in two months. I can tell you this for me shooting a release is so much easier.

    Rick Brohmer
     
  5. Baber

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    If you don't need it don't do it. Research some of the other threads on this site on this subject. Releases are only for those who really need them.

    Tom
     
  6. Shooting Coach

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    If I did not teach defensive firearms for a living, I would be shooting a release!

    I truly believe the release is an easier, more natural way to shoot clay targets. If a flinching issue is resolved with a recoil reducing mechanism in the gun, lighter loads, or sports hypnosis before going to it, I think scores will improve to the highest level. Going to it as an advantage, not as a necessity, will give one the positive mental re enforcement to focus on each shot and not worry about the trigger.

    I watched one of our SCTP kids pick up a release for the first time. He shot 2 targets on each station to get used to it, then boiled 25 targets on his first regular round! No one told him it took many shots to get used to the new trigger. At the age of 15, his Browning is getting outfitted with a release. I had no input on this, but watching him shoot, who am I to tell him different!

    For those of us who shoot other types of firearms, a decision is needed.
     
  7. JBrooks

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    The release trigger is a better bio-mechanical device for shooting a trap gun. It can really smooth out your swing. Try one and see if you like it. Do not let the anti-release trigger guys sway you. Everyone is different and if you can pick up a couple of targets per hundred, why not?
     
  8. phirel

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    I have the same opinion as Tom. Don't go to a release unless it becomes necessary. There are others however who have gone to a release trigger before developing a flinch and they claim that it is better for them. Clearly, not everyone agrees with Tom and I.

    Converting to a release trigger costs some money and it adds a few moving parts to the gun. This increases the number of parts that can break.

    Pat Ireland
     
  9. eric

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    My coach was after me for two years to switch to a release. I finally did and shot more 100's in the last four months than in the last three years. Worked for me!!

    Eric
     
  10. widomaker

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    Thanks to all. Maybe I just want too much too fast. I'm dying for my first 100. I watch the AA's and AAA's they make it look so easy. I guess there really is no substitute for practice and good fundamentals. I'm a now generation baby boomer and patience is not one of my strong points.

    To make matters worse I'm a network specialist so I live in a I want it yesterday world. As I said I don't have a flinch at this time and I really don't feel recoil at all. I'm thinking that if I can get just 2 more birds I'm in there. Some more practice and that might happen.

    I'll ask on of the local shooters if they will let me try their release see how it works.

    Thanks again its been a super exciting year shooting hope to see some of you next year.
     
  11. k3uro

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    Hey,

    Try an 1100 with a Release you will see the difference.

    If I had known than what I know now I would always have used a Release.

    My only compaint is I have to add severl hundred dollars to a gun just so I can shoot it.

    I now own Releases in 3 1100s, Special Trap, K-32 and a couple of 3200s.

    Take care,

    Jim
     
  12. Kingbang

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    I bought a remington 3200 with R/P 6 months after I started shooting trap. I had several people say I wasn't ready and didnt need a release. It took a month or so to get used to it.

    What I noticed? it took less time and effort to let it go versus pulling it. This allowed me to be smoother threw the target, and allowed me to react quicker to a wind blown frizbee target. Its kind of a lazy way of pulling the trigger.


    I don't know if the fast lock time on the 3200 comes into play on a release? but all I have to do is THINK shoot and it does. It seems to make common sense that it's easier to let go of something than it is to grab it. Down side is Ive had alot of problems with the release. So do alot of people on releases. But I hear guys spending $$$$ on custom pull triggers that have other problems to.

    Try one out, be aware if you go to a release? few can ever go back to a pull trigger. I couldnt anyway.

    my 2 cents anyway

    Dennis
     
  13. laura!

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    I'm with Jerry B; I went to release without a flinch. I was also a new shooter - I had only been shooting for about a year. It takes a few times before shooting a release feels natural, but it is worth it. You don't realize how much of your concentration is taken off the target by the act of pulling a trigger. My singles average with a pull trigger was 91%, My average with the release trigger (I got it in May) is 96%. I have not yet got 100 straight.
     
  14. widomaker

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    Thanks again:

    I'm all around that elusive 100 straight 97,98,99 but no 100. Its a lot harder than I ever thought it would be. Frustrating too. Damn targets

    Martin Milano #0765881
     
  15. otnot

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    When I start to jump at targets or my swing feels rough I put in my release trigger and shoot it for a couple of weeks and it seems to smooth everything out. I shoot pull and release about equally as well. I wouldn't go to a release unless you have to as they are harder to keep tuned.
     
  16. harpo_old

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    the worst part of shooting a release is when you want to trade or buy another gun . I have passed up some good buys on guns because by the time i put forth the money to have the releases installed it was not a good deal.
     
  17. bill1949

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    I wouldn't go to a release until you have to. I didn't until I couldn't pull the trigger before the bird hit the ground...Bill
     
  18. KEYBEAR

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    So Bill your telling him to be real miserable first then fix it with a release trigger . How many targets do you need to miss first ?

    ALF
     
  19. Easystreet

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    I have release triggers in two O/U's (both Browning Citoris) and two Berretta 390's. I've never had the first problem with any of the release triggers and that's after shooting tens of thousands of rounds with the guns.

    The only problem I ever had with a release trigger was with an 1100 release trigger which I got from Allen Timney. That thing was messed up from the get-go. After sending it back to him 3 times, I finally got my money back. In fairness to Mr Timney, this was about 4 years ago when his health wasn't too good.

    The Browning triggers were done by Spears. One of the Beretta 390's was done by Spears too. I did the other Beretta myself with a drop-in part that I got from someone on this site. Sorry that I don't remember his name right now, but it shouldn't be hard to find his post advertising his trigger part on this site.

    As far as how hard it is to get used to using a release trigger, it took me one afternoon. After that it was a piece of cake. Yeah, it adds a little to the cost of your gun, but compared to giving up shooting, the cost is pretty cheap.

    Easystreet
     
  20. Dr.Longshot

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    Concentration is a distinct advantage of a release trigger, at least it is to me, but I had to go to it because of flinching, Then I found out I was concentrating more on the target.



    Gary Bryant
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