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Recommended loads for Federal Paper Hulls

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by Jim Bradbury, Aug 4, 2011.

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  1. Jim Bradbury

    Jim Bradbury Member

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    I recently bought and shot two cases of Federal paper hulled ammunition. I have been wanting to try these hulls for reloading for a while. I am looking for recommended load data. I generally use Cheddite primers as they are the most readily avalable around here.

    Thansks,
    Jim Bradbury
     
  2. goatskin

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    Jim, what powders do you have on hand, how much shot do you want to throw, and how fast do you want to go?

    Bob
     
  3. ColtM1911A1

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    I run 21.5 grains of green dot with 12S3 Federal wads and a Fed 209 primer with 11/8 oz of #8 or # 71/2 with the Federal Paper hulls. This works out to about 1200 f/s on a standard day (59'0 F, 29.92 BP, and 50% H). It's a nice soft load -- I would think you can work that out for those Cheddite primers -- I do not know how hot these European primers are, but from my information, I do know that the Federals are near the top of the list. BTW, I got this formula from an Alliant handout when I was at some shoot.

    Since I've heard Cheddite primers are the same as Rio primers, how do you seat those since they are a slightly larger diameter than our America made primers? Do you force them in with a bit more pressure? That would work, but it seems that deformation of the brass or primer could lead to problems on the line or in your reloading room....am I wrong?

    If the Cheddite primers are the same diameters as our major brands, forget the above paragraph...

    For no particular reason, I only use the slower burning powders in my Fed paper reloads....Cya
     
  4. Jim Bradbury

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    I have both Green Dot and Clays on hand in my reloading area of the house. I am looking to reload 1 1/8 oz. loads. I would like to get a handicap type speed. Somewhere in the 1235 neighborhood. I have been told and it has been on this site many times that Cheddite primers are really comparable to Winchester primers. I have no problem putting them into AA,STS, and Nittro hulls. I have not reloaded near as much as most of you have as I have only been doing this for a little bit over two years now, But I have used well over 25,000 Cheddite primers. I did have one box of a 1,000 that I had about a dozen dud primers and that was when I first started using them. I have not had any issues with them since and that was about two years ago. ColtM1911A1 thanks for the information. Since I am fairly new at this I am open to all the advise I can get.

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    Jim Bradbury
     
  5. goatskin

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    Jim, you just abt stumbled into majiic-land with GD, and your Cheddite primers are just fine: they are about the same 'hot' as Win and a little less sparky than F209A.

    Add a ½gn of powder to an F209A recipe and use a medium-strength primer, like Win/Ched/Fio/ ... and you can't tell any ballistic difference.

    Wad is Fed12S3 (or DR or CB clone) and 22gn (± 1grain); pressures are low and velocity will run 1190/1200 with 21gn and 1250 with 23gn.

    That is an absolutely 1st-class 'caps bullet.

    Bob
     
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    I load 17.5 gr of 700X, Fed 209A primer, 12S3 wad and 1 1/8oz of 7 1/2shot for an 1150 fps load, go to 18.5 700X for 1250 fps. I have loaded that for years and never had a problem. I reload the hulls 3-4 times and pitch em. I use the exact same load in GM Plactic's

    ctreay
     
  7. Jim Bradbury

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    Guy's,

    Thanks for the recommendations. I will pick up some wads this afternoon when I go to our gun club to shoot. and will reload some rounds tonight. You information is really appreciated.

    Jim Bradbury
     
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    The primers that are larger are Fiocchi, work well, but if you change to another brand, they will fall out of the shell. Only primer that I know of like that.Nice load 20.5 green dot 12s3, 11/6oz 71/2 soft, 1200ft Loyd
     
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