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RCBS Question.....Grand reloader

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by pheasantsgalore, Apr 17, 2013.

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  1. pheasantsgalore

    pheasantsgalore Active Member

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    Question for anyone familiar with these reloaders, how do you replace the glass powder hopper that is attached to the cast base? I rec'd one from a seller here, that arrived damaged. I need to get some parts from RCBS if I ever get thru to them. Is this glass or acrylic powder tube glued into place?? Thanks for any help.
     
  2. ABH

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    It's acrylic and is not glued in. Some forcefull wiggling and pulling should free the hopper tube from the base. I glued mine in. ABH
     
  3. pheasantsgalore

    pheasantsgalore Active Member

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    Thanks. Appreciate the info. What brand/type of adhesive did you use ?
     
  4. kgp912kgp

    kgp912kgp Active Member

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    I do not think you would have any trouble contacting RCBS. I have had great service from them over the phone or email.
     
  5. pheasantsgalore

    pheasantsgalore Active Member

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    Did get thru ok. Ordered all parts that were damaged. I removed the broken acrylic powder tube, and it appears they come "glued" into the cast base direct from factory. May be awhile before this one is up and running.
     
  6. chuckie68

    chuckie68 Active Member

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    If you got a hold of RCBS and ordered the parts, it should take no longer than 2 weeks to get them. I bought a basketcase "GRAND" here and took my time with it about 4 months to rebuild and now it is the best loader I have. I still use my MEC's and they operate flawlessly but I really like the way the grand works.

    Chuck
     
  7. Joe Woods

    Joe Woods Well-Known Member

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    I have a Grand loader 12 Ga. I have never mastered it. I am not sure what all the problems are, primer feed, lack of patients( OPERATOR ERROR ) I have had progressive loaders since 1975. PW & MEC . One day I would like to learn how to operate this loader. I am a RCBS fan not anti . One day it will happen. EH !!

    Joe Woods /Ontario
     
  8. AveragEd

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    Joe, most people struggle with the Grand until that light in their head comes on and they fully comprehend how it works. And the most troubling thing seems to be getting the crimps nice without buckling the hulls. It was for me and I've heard that from many others.

    The wad has to be seated low enough to allow good crimps but not low enough that it is compressed. As with most loaders that seat the wad at one station and drop the shot at another, if you compress the wad it will just spring back up before the weight of the shot is upon it. Just as you would select the best wad for your recipe and adjust your wad seating ram/shot drop tube on your MEC, you must use the right length wad and then tune the length of the lower shot drop tube on your Grand. The key to knowing when that length is correct is seeing how the shot gate moves.

    Ask the great folks at RCBS for a long lower shot drop - in fact, I used a 20-gauge lower tube (the uppers are the same) so it couldn't catch on a wad petal - and a few extra knurled brass threaded spacers that go between the upper and lower drop tubes. Then, using the lower drop tube you now have, see if the shot gate can be pushed back by hand when the loader's operating handle is fully down. If so, your wad is not seated fully and the wad/shot column is too high. Add spacers until it bottoms rearward j-u-s-t before the handle stops moving down. Now you know how long the new lower drop tube must be with the normal one spacer.

    If the shot gate is bottoming prematurely, you are compressing the wad which is springing back up and your wad/shot column is also too high but for a different reason. You now need to shorten that lower drop tube until the gate travels fully and just a hair more. Use your metallic shell case mouth deburring/chamfering tool or a file and a large drill bit to smooth your saw cut if necessary.

    If you use two different powders and/or wads for your singles and handicap loads, for example, you'll either need a lower drop tube for each recipe or perhaps just add or subtract spacers when you change loads.

    The Grand, in my opinion, is the nicest manually-operated loader out there. I only sold mine when my arthritis made even my Grand's butter-smooth operating handle painful to move due to the rotational movement required of my shoulder. Learn it and you'll love it.

    Chuck, did you by chance buy mine? I sold it to a fellow poster on here and it was damaged in shipment. RCBS was kind enough to furnish the needed parts at no charge and spare him a lengthy battle with UPS, even though I had paid one of their shippers to pack it as well as ship it.

    Ed
     
  9. Paul in Mn

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    Joe, pm sent.

    Paul
     
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