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Rate my reloads

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by YOTESLAYER, Jan 23, 2013.

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  1. YOTESLAYER

    YOTESLAYER Member

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    I read threads asking what people shoot for reloads, so im gonna go at it the other way, rate my reloads on a scale of 1-10 and give me a tip of what you would load for 16s and handicap 20yards, one load I dont want to have to change the machine for more then one load.

    1 1/8 oz #7 1/2 shot, 16.7 gr of 700-x, winchester primer, gun club hulls, and CB1118-12 wad.

    Anything you would change? Is this a decent cold weather load? Thanks for your input!!

    Ryan
     
  2. grntitan

    grntitan Well-Known Member

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    What do the crimps look like? The amount of dish on the crimp can affect the performance of the shell. Of course the worst crimp in the world will work.
     
  3. YOTESLAYER

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    crimp is good. no wad pressure shows up on the guage, mec9000.
     
  4. ou.3200

    ou.3200 Well-Known Member

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    I used that exact load for years except the case was Peters Blue Magic and wad was Winchester rather than CB replacement. Good consistent load winter or summer. 700x became hard to find in my area.
     
  5. RLC323

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    Lead Shot 12ga 1 1/8 oz. 700-X Win. 209 CB 1118-12 16.5 8,700 PSI 1150

    That is the line from the IMR Data for Gun Club hulls. Nothing wrong with that load at 16.7, it should perform fine at 16 or 20, or 24 yards with no issues.

    If you are shooting at sub-zero and start hearing some bloops you can bump up the pressure by 1000 psi just changing primers to Fed209A.

    I always like just a little wad pressure on the scale, just to be sure I have the wad seated right.

    Performance should rival a premium shell if you use magnum shot.

    I would rate a 7/10 for economy.
     
  6. shot410ga

    shot410ga Well-Known Member

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    I would up the powder to 17.5 grains for a 1 1/8 load. Also to reduce cost I would buy Cheddite primers. But, hey your load is fine. I would just want a little more pop.
     
  7. Redcobra

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    For 16 yds, I use 1 oz of shot.
     
  8. Jawhawker

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    (1). Hate 700X. Practically any other powder.
     
  9. 12ShotTwo

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    That's funny I love 700X all I shoot for 12ga. Load 7/8oz, 1oz and 1 1/8oz with it. Joe
     
  10. Tripod

    Tripod Well-Known Member

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    I used that exact load for my handicap . Worked very well.
     
  11. JLSIMON

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    It's a "10"! It's going 1150fps. It will break them all the way back. However, for long yardage I'd go up a bushing to 17.5 (1200fps). Also, for extreme cold, bump up to 17.5. Cold weather, your shells aren't performing like they are listed so I like to compensate (safely). Your recipe is in the IMR manual. Most importantly, always use a scale.

    For Super-sonic speed, there are better powders out there. 700X gets punchy above 1200fps 3dr loads. I figure if I can't hit em with 1200 from longer yardage, I probably can't with 1250 either.

    YMMV,
    Jim
     
  12. gdbabin

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    If it is a published formula and it brakes targets "good", I'd rate it a 10.



    Guy B.
     
  13. davidjayuden

    davidjayuden Well-Known Member

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    I like to send my loads off to Downrange Wads and have them tested in their lab. Very informative.
    RLC323:
    I'm surprised that simply increasing the powder will stop the dreaded cold weather "blooper". I'd convinced myself that it was a result of a large bore sized gun, or the materials used in the wads being effected by the cold.
    dju
     
  14. JLSIMON

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    davidjayuden,

    I believe RLC323 was advocating going with a hotter primer if bloopers are a problem. I would only say, make sure that additional 1000psi doesn't get you into dangerous territory. Again, check the manuals or make a phone call to be safe. The problem is usually wads with bloopers. Some Wad and Hull combinations can be problematic in extreme cold. Just changing out the wad can do wonders.

    I was suggesting additional powder for more speed. Two different things.

    Thanks,
    Jim
     
  15. RLC323

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    Lead Shot 12 1 1/8 oz. 700-X Fed. 209A CB 1118-12 16.5 9,700 PSI 1150

    Data taken from the IMR manual for Gun Club hulls. The Federal 209A primer will give you about 1000 more PSI with the same charge of 700X. Well within safe parameters. Cold blooper issues are pretty rare anyway with 1 1/8 loads. Most you hear about are 1 ouncers in cold weather.

    Another cold weather tip is to leave your shells in the passenger compartment of the car on the trip and take them in the clubhouse so they stay warm.

    If it is so cold that my shells are getting chilled in my pocket before we finish 25, I am not shooting until it warms up.
     
  16. Bigcat

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    I been shooting 16.9 for 11/8 and 15.6 for 1oz for ever never an issue breaking birds.
     
  17. YOTESLAYER

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    Ive been keeping the shells warm the entire time and only leaving them in the cold while im shooting. Thanks for all the info, I thought about switching to Clays and trying something with that powder as well. Maybe Ill just stick to my 700X.
     
  18. Ross

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    That's a excellent load, I have used 700X with Rem. primers since it came out. Was called just Hi-Score when it was a single base like PB and 7625, but when they switched (for cost I presume) to a double base I tried it and was happy, it's still the best stuff on the market. Have tried most all of the competitions fast burn rate stuff at some point in time and always go back to 700X just a little hard to find right now. Stay with it you won't be sorry. Very good with temp changes also. Ross Puls
     
  19. Twinbirds

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    What matters is what it does for you and what you can do with it in your equipment. I wouldn't be afraid to use it anywhere on the concrete in warm weather
     
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