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Question on $200,000 lewis purse

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by smsnyder, Apr 3, 2011.

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  1. smsnyder

    smsnyder Well-Known Member

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    Lee Ann Martin $200,000 Lewis Chellenge is based on 1000 grand american targets DURING GRAND WEEK? Is a person who only shoots Singles and handicap still eligable for the lewis payout (EACH DAY) when they pay the $200 entry fee? Don't understand how trap and field explained it. Futhermore there is only 950 targets thrown during Grand week according to scheudle of events provided by ATA. IS Lewis payout going to be paid in all three events. Singles,caps and doubles?
     
  2. smsnyder

    smsnyder Well-Known Member

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    Very confusing program. $20 entry per 100 targets on grand week 1000 HOA targets 1000 entries. $10 paid out on each event (shooters money onlY) $10 paid out on 1000 HOA TARGETS (shooters $10 plus $200,000 starter fund) Paid 60/40 on individual events, 50/30/20 on HOA OF 1000 targets five classes. All paid out with percentage system.
    There example 2000 entries in lewis, $400,000 PLUS $200,000 STARTER FUND, $10 paid out in each event. $10 paid out on 1000 targets. Individual event payout (shooters money only), $20,000/5=$4000 each class paid 60/40 $2400/$1600 each event paid percentage. HOA payout, $200,000 plus $200,000 starter fund=$80,000 each class paid 50/30/20 $40,000/24,000 on HOA paid percentage. SOMEONE OUT THERE CAN FIGURE THIS OUT AND EXPLAIN IT.
     
  3. smsnyder

    smsnyder Well-Known Member

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    111 people view this and no one can explain yet?
     
  4. gdbabin

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    I'm with you brother....



    Guy B.
     
  5. ntgr8

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    Pay the $200 entry, shoot all the tgts the best you can and stand back and wait for the money to roll in. LOL
     
  6. Butler

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    I'll try, but this is subject to change (by me)
    the 200K that lee Ann put in the lewis is for the HOA only
    The only money in the 8 individual events will be shooter money only.
    One half of your 200.00 goes to the HOA lewis one half goes to the individual events, 200 target events will have a 20.00 lewis 100 target events will have
    a 10.00 lewis
    The HOA will be paid 50-30-20 % to each one of the 5 lewis classes
    this is the only lewis that will have Lee Ann's 200K in it.
    The 8 events,that make up the 1000 targets (you must play all events to be eligible for the 200K added) for a cost of 200.00 again, the only money in the 8 events leading up to the HOA total will be shooter money, but it should be a really good lewis pay out that will be paid out 60% to top score 40% to 2nd high score, (instead of the 20-20-20-20-20 high gun that they used to pay), and there will be 5 lewis classes in each event.
    The program says (according to trap and field that all payours are percentage
    ie 100'a in aingles will get 60% of the money divided 99'a will get 40%of the money divided, and that will be the first of 5 lewis pays.

    hope this helps
     
  7. smsnyder

    smsnyder Well-Known Member

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    Thanks Bulter your my hero for trying. What 8 events? There are 9 events during grand week plus one event for champions of champions? Is it correct that you must shoot all singles, doubles and handicap events during Grand Week to get into the $200,000 money? How about the $200 per shooter added money? Is the $200 entry considered shooters money?
     
  8. smsnyder

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    So in other words the $200,000 Martins are giving is for HOA ONLY. Is that HOA for the full Week. What happens to the shooters entry money $200 x 2000 shooters = $400,000
     
  9. scott calhoun

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    Did you read the ATA website (link above)? They give examples of how it will work.

    Seems pretty understandable to me, but I went to public school.

    Scott
     
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    In memorial to our late departed shooter, Pat Ireland--"If you don't play the options, you can afford to shoot factory ammo"--In my honest opinion,in this event make out a check to Harlan, Leo,etc.

    Phil Berkowitz
     
  11. zinger

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    Earl, you won't get close enough to the HOA lewis on 1000 targets if you don't shoot doubles........so, if I were you, I'd save the $200 entry fee and just play lewis on whatever you shoot.
     
  12. smsnyder

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    Didn't know that. So the $200'000 means nothing unless you shot all events in the grand week. Guess I'll have to start shooting doubles.This will leave a lot of shooters out of the picture that don't or can't afford to shoot 16' caps and doubles. What happens to the other $400,000 if they get 2000 entries at $200.00. thanks
     
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    Thanks zinger
     
  14. Butler

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    champion of champions doesn't count for the HOA
    and like a poster said, if you don't shoot doubles you don't have a chance.
    and your 200 dollars is divided in 1/2......1/2 to the 1000 targets and 1/2 to the hoa,,,, follow the money 2000 shooters (provided 2000 people play the lewis) X 100.00 is 200,000.00 plus the 200K that Lee Ann is giving makes the HOA lewis 400K dived 5 times is 80K divided 50-30-20 makes for a 40K 24K and 16K ,,for 200 dollars that is an unbelievable return on your investment. as well as the possible pays that would be available in the regular events with that amount of people playing the lewises......If I didn't have a double gun I would buy one
    go back to RJ stewart and look what kind of scores won the HOA lewises last yeat and remember that they pay 3 places divided i.e. 1000, 999 998 divided
     
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    Thanks Butler. A lot of shooters don't know this. They were assuming that if you put up the $200 the Lewis would be paid out every day during grand week.
     
  16. Hitapair

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    Okay, SM you take Harlan and I'll take Leo. $10?
     
  17. scott calhoun

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    SM -

    I'm confused - at 3:30 this afternoon you didn't understand how this works, and now six hours later you are offering advise on who should play?

    There is a lewis being paid out every day of Grand Week. Half of the $200 entry fee is paid back on the lewis on each daily event, the other half goes to the HOA lewis, along with the $200K from the Martins. Did you actually read the explanation on the ATA website? It would answer your question about "the other $400K", and also clarify that since it's a Lewis with five classes there will be more than one winner and it won't just be the guy that wins the HOA.

    There has always been an HOA lewis at the Grand, with the entry fee payable as part of the Monday event. This year the Martin's are seeding the pot with $200,000, and the entry fee is $10 per 100 (or $200 for the week).

    I bet you would be surprised to know that the person that won the HOA in the 2010 Grand made the same amount of money ($283) as the people that won the 4th and 5th Lewis class. One of the big dogs will surely cash in, but so will a handful of little dogs. The whole idea of this was that it would provide big money (min. $160K is going to be paid to people who are in the bottom four lewis classes, only $40K goes to the top class) to regular shooters.

    No doubt that this is probably only worth playing for those that shoot all events of Grand week, but that's what the HOA is, after all.

    Scott
     
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    The way Butler has it there will be 5 lewis classes in the HOA. Doesn't that give all shooters some hope? Jerry
     
  19. RLC323

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    The 1000 target total HOA last year did not include Champion of Champions, of course, and the Thursday Doubles Event.

    200 Singles Monday

    100 Handicap
    100 Doubles Tuesday

    200 Singles Wednesday

    100 Handicap Thursday

    100 Handicap
    100 Doubles Friday

    100 Handicap Saturday
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    1000 Total HOA Targets
     
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    I really don't understand why there is so much confusion over this. The PDF on the ATA website is pretty clear.

    50% of shooter’s option entry fee will go into an option that will pay out for each 100 targets. These options will be paid out to 5 Lewis classes divided 60/40%. An example of how the 100 target options would work with 2,000 entries is:

    2,000 shooters x $200 = $400,000 shooter’s Lewis option entry fee money
    $400,000 Divided 50% to daily Lewis Classes, 50% to HOA Lewis
    $200,000 divided by 10 = $20,000 per 100 targets

    $20,000 divided by 5 Lewis classes = $4,000 per class
    $4,000 divided 60/40% = $2,400 for 1st in each Lewis class and $1,600 for 2nd in each Lewis class

    What is difficult about this???

    Bob Lawless
     
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