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Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by Redbone311, Aug 13, 2012.

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  1. Redbone311

    Redbone311 TS Member

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    I am just starting out Trap shooting. I shot maybe two rounds about 35 years ago.
    I recently picked up a Miroku O/U fixed Full/Full Trap shotgun and am planing to shoot it tomorrow AM.
    But I also now have a guy looking to trade me his cased BT-99 w/ 32" fixed full and 34" fixed full barrels (both 12 ga singles) for a Colt Python.
    Any recommendations guys?
    Not sure yet if I will like it enough for 2 guns. Will find out tomorrow.
    Or if I do; should I go with just one gun, and then which one?
    What is the point of having the 2 barrels? I am guessing for shooting further back you use the longer one? Or to slow down a fast swinging shooter? Or what?
    I know time will tell here. But I don't want to be rude and put the other guy on hold forever either.
    Suggestions guys?
    Thanks in advance.
    Dave
     
  2. Ross

    Ross Well-Known Member

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    Redbone311: Kinda depends on how much you're in love with the Python, that said you didn't give the bbl length of your O&U. Generally speaking a longer sighting plane helps in pointing, and some people prefer the balance and swing of a longer (or shorter) bbl. O&Us can to some people ie. small frame--not too athletic--women--etc. feel a bit muzzle heavy. If possible ask if you could shoot a couple rounds (25) with the BT to compare how it "feels--fits" to your O&U. Either gun will serve you well until (unless) you start shooting doubles. Ross Puls

    P.S. Welcome to a VERY addicting game. ENJOY
     
  3. Steve W

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    I suggest you try the Miroku O/U first, see if this fits you. O/U can get you into shooting doubles later. But the gun has to fit you.

    BT is a great gun for the money, the trend these days is "longer", 34" is more popular. But in reality, 32" and 34" doesn't make meaningful differences in a SBT. If you must, an added choke tube can change the balance of it. There's no need to keep both barrels.

    Python is a collectable item these days, I can't suggest what to do with it since there's no guaranty what the future will bring.
     
  4. RickN

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    I'd just shoot the o/u for a while.

    It won't be hard to turn a Python into a BT-99 so no use rushing into that deal.
     
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    Dave the BT99 might have a difference POI try it befor making a deal.
    Salutations
    Pierre
     
  6. slayer

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    Just fyi the 32 inch barrel would be a throw-away on the bt. Doesn't add any value to the gun in fixed full. in fact a bt with a 32 inch bbl is much harder to sell making the value of the gun less. I can't even see why he has two barrels for this if they both are full. Probably first had only the 32 and then purchased the 34 later on. Bill
     
  7. Redbone311

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    The Miroku O/U (Browning Citori) is 30 inches, full/full.
    And I'm a big guy, 6'2" 240 lbs. So the heft of the gun doesn't bother me. And will help tame the recoil I would think.
    I'm not that attached to the Python anymore. I have had that for about 35 years. And have S&W's and Dan Wessons that are better shooters (for me anyways).
    The BT99 is almost in like new shape, and with a Hartman case.
    But I think I would be better off and would prefer one with an adjustable comb instead of 2 similar barrels
     
  8. wayneo

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    I would check the chokes on those guns again. I've never seen a Miroku Trap that was imported by Charles Daly with a Full and Full. Most have Modified or Improved Modified on the bottom and full on top.

    The two barrel set Bt-99 were the same way from the factory, 32" was Mod, or IM, and the 34" was full. Never seen a two barrel set full and full, doesn't make any sense.

    You are getting good advice, I like what Rick said. Shoot the O/U they are good guns and parts for it are plenty.

    That Python should get you a BT-99 with all the bells and whistles, whenever you want.

    Wayne
     
  9. Quick 1

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    You could always add an adjustable comb to the BT-99. You might be surprised how well you like the 32 inch barrel on the BT. You could always have the choke opened up a little for singles.
     
  10. hmb

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    Shoot the guns, see if they are user friendly and break targets. Then you can make an intelligent decision. HMB
     
  11. Redbone311

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    Thanks guys for all your help. It is very much appreciated.
    I AM going to pass on the BT-99. I can't test fire it as it is several states away. I can't see any sense to having a gun with both barrels so similar. And like many pointed out, I can always convert the Python into a single barrel trap in the future if and when I need it.
    BTW the Miroku isn't a Charles Daly. I believe it was pre- Charles Daly. Gun is just marked: BC Miroku OTW Trap Gun. It is marked with one star for each barrel. A test of the chokes with a gauge confirmed that it is full and full. And it has a very wide (5/8 of an inch) rib on top.
    I had originally wanted a BT-99 instead. But I will shoot this one for a while and we will see how this all plays out.
    Thanks again to all. very much appreciated.
    Dave
     
  12. CalvinMD

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    Good move Dave...If you were still considering the BT trade I would think if your Python is in excellent shape I'd think you should ask for cash kicked in..a two barrel set fixed choke BT even in mint shape and in a case will fall short of value of a very nice Python by a little bit
     
  13. Jawhawker

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    Redbone, what Calvin said. In my opinion a Python would/should be worth atleast a couple hundred more than that BT. I would also make sure both barrel serial numbers match as wayneo stated, all the two barrel sets I've seen had the 32"barrel with an imp. mod. choke.

    slayer, Browning made a two barrel set with 32/34" barrels.
     
  14. billyboy07208

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    keep the python!
     
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    keep the python!
     
  16. crusha

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    Keep your Python. You will regret getting rid of it. Pythons are rare. BT99s are a dime a dozen. After a year of shooting trap, you might even decide you want something else, and your Python will be gone, gone, gone.
     
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