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Question about loading 28ga and 410

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by Chessie33, Aug 31, 2011.

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  1. Chessie33

    Chessie33 TS Member

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    I have been reloading 12 and 20 ga on MEC 9000GNs for over a year and love them. I am now thinking about reloading 28 and 410. I have read how difficult these are to reload. In the 28 and 410 I have been saving AAHS hulls. My question is should I stick with MEC 9000GNs or spend the money on a Spolar set-up to do both loads? I shoot 300 to 400 rounds per week. Thanks for any advice
    John
     
  2. Feist Hunter

    Feist Hunter TS Member

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    Are you going to shoot 300-400 28`s or 410`s? I reload 410`s on a 9000g and it works great. 28 gauge is relatively easy to load compared to the ladyfingers. MEC should work fine.

    MGM
     
  3. Lewes

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    I have a MEC 9000 in 28 gauge and have NO problems in reloading . I reload mostly STS hulls. Irv
     
  4. djldb6

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    A buddy of mine recently started loading .410 on a 9000G and has had no issues whatsoever. When I go to sub gauges I will stay with MEC.

    Dan
     
  5. fly

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    the 28's load almost as fast as the other shells, but the 410 runs a bit slower due to size. Primer seating and wad placement is important. Save the money, get a MEC 9000.
     
  6. Pull & Mark

    Pull & Mark Well-Known Member

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    John, The Mec's will work just fine. There is some wiggle room with the 28's and not much different than the 12's or 20's. The 410 bore needs be be right on. H110 powder and claybuster HS wad fill the HS hull nicely. Not only check the powder drops, but the shot drops as well. The Mec charge bar will need to be reemed out to drop the correct shot drop. Once these two drops are correct you can adj. the crimps to get them correct. Their is no play with the 410 wad to compress like the other 3 gauges can and will do. Other wise you may run into dished crimps/ and or a shell that sounds like a baby rattle with a air pocket inside the shell. Break-em all Jeff
     
  7. Shooting Jack

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    All I have is Mec's and 366 auto's and prefer the Mec's except for the fact that the 366's have a shell drop hole. For the money you can't beat a 9000. You should be able to load about 200 shells an hour with the 9000 410 and even more with the 12, 20, and 28. Jackie B.
     
  8. Chessie33

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    Thank you All very much for the response. To answer one of the earlier posts from MGM, I try to shoot 300 to 400 per week rotating between the gauges but I try and shoot the smaller gauges at 25 to 50 percent of the time.
     
  9. boomer

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    My vote is for the grabber in 410 bore. It is about as fast as the 9000 and allows for a lot less problems if you get in a jam.
     
  10. leadvail

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    On another very important note, it's going to be nearly impossible to stay under the magic 9500 psi that is touted by the few "reloading experts" on this site. So use caution when shooting those gauges ( and the 20). They claim seperated hulls, premature gun failure and other so called unproven malidies (arm chair myths) if the 9500psi rule isn't followed.

    Be warned to find out the truth as those that publish the manuals know!

    Bob
     
  11. skeet_man

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    The only thing the spolar will get you is reloads that look slightly nicer, but that's about it. I never found it to be any faster than the 9000, and is actually probably slower if you don't have the hydraulic.
     
  12. Jim Porter

    Jim Porter Well-Known Member

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    Grabber! If you are not shooting in large quantities. Loads a fine shell and can be bought used for a deal sometimes. I practice what I preach---I have one
     
  13. Doug Mc

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    Grabber ... indexing by hand allows for better control ... those skinny little 410's in a 9000 with the auto index will spill shot once in a while and that is not a feature that you want ... I have tried them both and I stuck with the Grabber
     
  14. skeet_man

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    Get the 9000. If you really feel the need, you can disconnect the auto-advance and "dumb it down" to a grabber, but you can't go the other way and make a grabber auto-advance...
     
  15. skeeljc

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    Here is another option. A P/W 800 Plus with an Auto-Drive.

    I load 2000 to 4000 .410's per year. The 800 Plus keeps the small hulls from flopping around and spilling shot. Almost as easy as loading 28's or 20's.

    Jim Skeel<BR>
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    Leadvail,

    With smaller bores, pressures can be increased safely. Hoop stress goes down as the diameter of the tube is reduced (assuming the tube wall thickness is unchanged). Look at the SAAMI data.

    Don Verna
     
  17. ou.3200

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    I had a MEC 9000 .410 loader. The shells produced looked fine but spent more time cleaning up spilled shot than reloading. I now have a 366 with the thicker plate that holds the shells more securely. It loads much smoother with hardly any spilled shot.
     
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    ou.3200 Is your 366 and auto or is it manual advance? Jackie B.
     
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