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PW primer feed improvement ?

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by DaveXT, May 28, 2013.

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  1. DaveXT

    DaveXT Member

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    Looking for ideas on how to improve the PW primer tray feeding. As of now, mine is stock. My loader mount is very stable. There is not much vibration. Sometimes the primers don't want to work themselves down to the track.

    Thanks
    Dave
     
  2. luvtrapguns

    luvtrapguns Well-Known Member

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    On a PW 800 I had years ago I made a small link that attached to the rear of tray and extend down about an inch. The bottom of link would attach to original mounting point. It would mount the tray on a more sever angle and cured the problem. Marc
     
  3. skeezix

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    I believe PW now sells a 'tapper' that mounts to the wad guide and taps the primer feed track when you operate the machine.

    They also have a new primer tray, track, and a differnet mount that they market to improve feeding issues.

    I use top-cote on the tray and track. It's a spray on dry lube meant for tablesaw surfaces. With the tray and track clean and dry lubed I can keep the tray on it's flatest setting and it feeds fine. I don't use the tapper device.

    I don't have to do the track and tray very often. Maybe once a year is plenty.
     
  4. kiv-c

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    The simplest, cheapest and most effective method is a light coat of paste wax in the primer tray about every 500 - 1000 rounds. Takes about 10 1/2 seconds!

    Kiv
     
  5. Unknown1

    Unknown1 Well-Known Member

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    <blockquote><I>"...I made a small link that attached to the rear of tray and extend down about an inch...It would mount the tray on a more sever angle and cured the problem."</I></blockquote>It may have "cured" that problem...for a while. But I guarantee that the more of an angle you put into the tray, the more bending stress you will put into chute where it connects to the tray and the sooner that connection will break.

    Keller
     
  6. Johnny

    Johnny Well-Known Member

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    Spolar added a vibrator to their loader. Why do you suppose they did that? Primers will tend to form an arch where they enter the top baffle. That's is what primers on an incline do. Raising the tray too much at the back adds pressure on the jam and only increases this problem. Waxing the tray does nothing to alleviate the jamming because slipperiness is not the problem. Add a vibrator.
     
  7. whiz white

    whiz white Strong Supporter of Trapshooting Banned

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    Raise the trap up as high as the two button head cap screws permit.

    Or, add a tapper.

    Whiz
     
  8. likes-to-shoot

    likes-to-shoot Well-Known Member

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    How old is you loader. I found on mine that when the track cracks near the spot welds on the tray it doesn't get the movement needed to help the primers move down the tray. If its cracked its time for a new one from Whiz.....

    PS...JB weld doesn't work either. lol
     
  9. shot410ga

    shot410ga Well-Known Member

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    Put some alcohol on the tray and rail, clean. Sprinkle some powdered graphite on the tray and rail, then spread with a Q-tip or small brush. Then install one of Whiz's vibrators and flatten the tray down, not up. With that method I can run hundreds of primers through with no issues. They don't get plugged up as with the more angled tray. Oh! Get the extended tray.
     
  10. riflegunbuilder

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    Yes order a Whiz Vibrator; I need 1 more and he won't make any until about 12 people want them.
     
  11. dls guide

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    The primer feed set up is way better on the PW in my opinion than the Spolar machine. At least on the PW loader you can watch the primers easier also. Your PW just needs some adjustment and a vibrator.
     
  12. oleolliedawg

    oleolliedawg Banned User Banned TS Supporters

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    "better than the Spolar". Primer visibility yes-functionality never. Nor have I had to replace the entire trac when the weld failed on a Spolar!!
     
  13. paul7177

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    I put together my own vibrator and attached it under the tray. I found the tapper ineffective. Some on here have also modified the tray inserts to reduce jamming.
     
  14. chuckie68

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    Wax the tray with Johnson's paste furniture wax.

    Chuck
     
  15. Unknown1

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    In the past I repaired several assemblies with cracked chutes by having an inexpensive (ie. cheap Asian) artists' pallet knife blade tacked to the underside of the tray and chute by a skilled welder. The blade is stiff but it could be bent easily and held the shape well. It's is the same gauge as the chute and the extra large radius and flexibility of the connection has apparently eliminated further breakage...even when some of the owners stood the tray on its nose...in the repaired assemblies I still have track of. The crack/break in the chute was not repaired; it was just ground smooth after the new piece was put in.<center>
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    Keller
     
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