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Discussion in 'Uncategorized Threads' started by phirel, Jun 17, 2007.

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  1. phirel

    phirel TS Member

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    I offer the suggestion, for discussion only, of adding two different pay outs for singles events as small shoots. First, the club would have to increase the entry fee for a singles event by $10. The additional $10 would be used to fund these pay outs. Technically, this would not constitute a mandatory purse. It would simply be added money.

    First, $1.25 from each shooter would be paid back on each 25 target sub event. Scores of 25 would divide 50% of the money for each subevent. All scores of 24 would divide 30% of the money and scores of 23 would divide 20%. This would take care of the first $5 each shooter would pay.

    The remaining $5 would be paid back as five cents for every target broken. If a shooter shot a 90, he would get back $4.50 cents. The remaining money would be paid to the high gun.

    I believe shooters like to win something. For many shooters if they pay an extra $10 and get back $8.50, they feel like a winner.

    Nobody with a sound mind would cashier events with the pay outs described above.

    Pat Ireland
     
  2. Trap2

    Trap2 Well-Known Member

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    Pat.... As a new cashier, I have to agree. I wouldn't even consider trying to cashier an option like this. Maybe George Cook will incorporate it into his 3S program...lol..What a nightmare......Dan Thome (Trap2)
     
  3. fearlessfain

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    i recommend no betting and no money involved in trap shooting, after all it's supposed to be for fun.
     
  4. CalvinMD

    CalvinMD Well-Known Member

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    Only skeet shooters like purses, especially when it matches their tutu
     
  5. waverider

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    Why would it not be a mandatory purse if the club increases the registration fee? If you want to shoot you must pay the increased registration fee. Sure sounds like a mandatory purse when you must pay the inflated registration fee.

    Jason
     
  6. phirel

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    Jason- It was not too unusual at the larger shoots around 1965-1970 to have an increased registration fee for the main handicap event and award a new automobile as the trophy. This was not considered a mandatory purse.

    In 1972, at the Oklahoma State Shoot, I did have a new car won after the first 96 targets. But, I did not have it won after the first 98 targets. I did not consider the event to have a mandatory purse for the first 96 targets. After the 98 target, I changed my mind and did consider it to be a mandatory purse disguised with words.

    Pat Ireland
     
  7. Big Heap

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    "Technically, this would not constitute a mandatory purse. It would simply be added money."

    Traditionally, "Added Money" was money added to the program by a contributor from funds other than entry fees. A sponsor could sweeten the pot with money that would entice more shooters to participate.

    The example sounds like a mandatory purse. If it was an "option" it would be a challenge to calculate but it would be acceptable. Good suggestion Pat.
     
  8. phirel

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    Jerry- My club now has added money for each shoot that is a combined singles/handicap Lewis pay out. It is impossible to know what score will win. One group that is advantaged with this system is the class A and AA shooters who shoot a 96-98 in singles. That will not win but when combined with the handicap score, sometimes things work out.

    We raised our price to $15 per hundred and the club puts in $2 per shooter per event into this added money purse. Some would call this a mandatory purse, others would not.

    Pat Ireland
     
  9. bigclown

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    Just as a matter of discussion, if the purse is built into the entry fee structure, it will raise the cost to enter. If you raise the cost to shoot (enter), you eliminate some who would otherwise shoot...the higher the cost, the more you might eliminate. Mandatory purses got me out of registered skeet. And, while it may not "technically" be mandatory, what does "technically" mean? Reminds me of an old girl friend who declared: "Technally, I was a virgin when I got married..." What the heck does that mean? Might be worth a try, but the downside is some may opt not to shoot. Best Regards, Ed
     
  10. Mac V

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    It didn't take me long to figure out that no matter how lucky I am, I always come home with more money in my pocket by NOT playing options.
     
  11. maltzahn

    maltzahn Active Member

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    People that like to play the options are in general gamblers. May like to play poker with friends or go to the casino. Put up 10 bucks and have a good day shooting, win some money. The worse thing in options is to put up 10 bucks and get back 8. The option players feel like there is no reason to gamble the original 10 and sits out. This is the primary reason the options have fallen on hard times.

    If your not a player, your opinion is irrelevant. Your not going to participate anyway. Let gamblers only set the agenda.

    Maltzie
     
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