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Psychotropic medications ?

Discussion in 'Politics, Elections & Legislation' started by Hammer1, Jan 17, 2013.

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  1. Hammer1

    Hammer1 Active Member

    Sep 26, 2010

    What percentage of our children and young people have been on some form of psychotropic drugs at some time in their lifetimes ?

    Had a teacher from a public school tell me that she insisted that every boy in her classroom be on Ritalin or she wouldn't teach. She is not a teacher of some special class but of a general student population. Said she has had this requirement for years and that it was common practice. She further said that parents had no reason to know. Many parents would not understand.

  2. Sharp1

    Sharp1 Member

    Aug 5, 2011
    I have experianced it first hand. Every year at the same time they would encourage my son to be drugged. I finally got so fed up we moved out of that distict. We now have no issues...I found it so surprising that a teacher felt she could "perscribe medication" I often questioned them if they had a Medical degree. They were quite surprised when I challanged them. I hate to think of the parents that just blindly comply with their directions. I was also told yet I never confirmed that a district can get more Federal monies if a certain amount of students were drugged.
  3. Michael Gregory

    Michael Gregory Member

    Feb 20, 2006
    Kommiefornia, but North Idaho soon... REALLY!
    Psychothropic medications ?

    Hammer1: Honestly, if one can afford it in a case like this, I would consider consulting an attorney who specializes in learning disability law. I am no expert, but my wife and I (mostly my wife) have dealt with our school district for years on learning disability issues, since we have a child with some fairly minor learing problems. If you walk in to a school district office with a good attorney beside you, I promise they will take notice, and their whole attitude often changes. Having said that... I am in Commiefornia, and it could be a state law, and I think it's federal law, but I have been under the impression that they are on shaky ground if they even imply that a child should be medicated. And if they do suggest it, I believe they also (under certain circumstances) can be made to pay for it. They damn sure can't force you to put your child on it! My personal experience is that many teachers love to label every kid who's disruptive, imperfect, or has any trouble learning as probably having ADD or ADHD, with the implication that they need to be "medicated", because it makes the teachers lives easier. The teachers whom I've seen do this have had, in reality, no real knowledge or expertise in the area either. As I said, we've been dealing with this for years, and one of the things we've learned is that genuine ADD or ADHD (if there is such a thing) seldom 'walks alone', that they always have a buddy that rides with them. That 'buddy' is very often a serious learning disability, like dislexia, or processing problems of some kind, which need to be diagnosed by a neuropsychologist, and attended to if you want the child to get a good education and understand that they are not "stupid or something" . Medication won't help in these cases, they just make a teachers job easier while everyone ignors the problem. Last thought - There are a number of medications now available to treat ADD/ADHD besides Ritalin, and they all work differently in each person, and have differing levels of side effects in each person. A number of years ago, while we were looking for answers, we tried two or three of them on my kid, and me as well (If I'm going to have my kid taking one of these, I damn sure am going to take it myself as well so I know what it's doing). The absolutely worst side effect that we saw was extreme sleepiness with one of them when it wore off after school. As far as helping... everyone is different, but with us they would sometimes mildly help with concentration, but other than that not really do a lot. We discontinued after a short time and have never looked back. In our experience, they are not a harmful psychotic that will make you nutty or anything, but they're no miracle either. Hammer1, I know I went beyond your question here, but I posted this in the hope that it is helpful to someones kid sometime. I do hope this helps someone. Mike
  4. Catpower

    Catpower Molon Labe TS Supporters

    Jan 29, 1998
    In the Cabana
    When our son was in second grade he was having problems and they wanted to put him on Ritilin, there were 5 or 6 "educators" in the room and me, they were really on a hard sell, guess they got commission but I told them nope, then they all got defensive and I told them "If just say no was good enough for Nancy Reagan it was good enough for me"

    And I got up and walked out, he turned out to be a fine young man without it
  5. TinMan88

    TinMan88 TS Member

    Mar 5, 2007
    Eric Harris age 17 (first on Zoloft then Luvox) and Dylan Klebold aged 18 (Columbine school shooting in Littleton, Colorado), killed 12 students and 1 teacher, and wounded 23 others, before killing themselves. Klebold’s medical records have never been made available to the public.

    Jeff Weise, age 16, had been prescribed 60 mg/day of Prozac (three times the average starting dose for adults!) when he shot his grandfather, his grandfather’s girlfriend and many fellow students at Red Lake, Minnesota. He then shot himself. 10 dead, 12 wounded.

    Cory Baadsgaard, age 16, Wahluke (Washington state) High School, was on Paxil (which caused him to have hallucinations) when he took a rifle to his high school and held 23 classmates hostage. He has no memory of the event.

    Chris Fetters, age 13, killed his favorite aunt while taking Prozac.

    Christopher Pittman, age 12, murdered both his grandparents while taking Zoloft.

    Mathew Miller, age 13, hung himself in his bedroom closet after taking Zoloft for 6 days.

    Kip Kinkel, age 15, (on Prozac and Ritalin) shot his parents while they slept then went to school and opened fire killing 2 classmates and injuring 22 shortly after beginning Prozac treatment.

    Luke Woodham, age 16 (Prozac) killed his mother and then killed two students, wounding six others.

    A boy in Pocatello, ID (Zoloft) in 1998 had a Zoloft-induced seizure that caused an armed stand off at his school.

    Michael Carneal (Ritalin), age 14, opened fire on students at a high school prayer meeting in West Paducah, Kentucky. Three teenagers were killed, five others were wounded..

    A young man in Huntsville, Alabama (Ritalin) went psychotic chopping up his parents with an ax and also killing one sibling and almost murdering another.

    Andrew Golden, age 11, (Ritalin) and Mitchell Johnson, aged 14, (Ritalin) shot 15 people, killing four students, one teacher, and wounding 10 others.

    TJ Solomon, age 15, (Ritalin) high school student in Conyers, Georgia opened fire on and wounded six of his class mates.

    Rod Mathews, age 14, (Ritalin) beat a classmate to death with a bat.

    James Wilson, age 19, (various psychiatric drugs) from Breenwood, South Carolina, took a .22 caliber revolver into an elementary school killing two young girls, and wounding seven other children and two teachers.

    Elizabeth Bush, age 13, (Paxil) was responsible for a school shooting in Pennsylvania

    Jason Hoffman (Effexor and Celexa) – school shooting in El Cajon, California

    Jarred Viktor, age 15, (Paxil), after five days on Paxil he stabbed his grandmother 61 times.

    Chris Shanahan, age 15 (Paxil) in Rigby, ID who out of the blue killed a woman.

    Jeff Franklin (Prozac and Ritalin), Huntsville, AL, killed his parents as they came home from work using a sledge hammer, hatchet, butcher knife and mechanic’s file, then attacked his younger brothers and sister.

    Neal Furrow (Prozac) in LA Jewish school shooting reported to have been court-ordered to be on Prozac along with several other medications.

    Kevin Rider, age 14, was withdrawing from Prozac when he died from a gunshot wound to his head. Initially it was ruled a suicide, but two years later, the investigation into his death was opened as a possible homicide. The prime suspect, also age 14, had been taking Zoloft and other SSRI antidepressants.

    Alex Kim, age 13, hung himself shortly after his Lexapro prescription had been doubled.

    Diane Routhier was prescribed Welbutrin for gallstone problems. Six days later, after suffering many adverse effects of the drug, she shot herself.

    Billy Willkomm, an accomplished wrestler and a University of Florida student, was prescribed Prozac at the age of 17. His family found him dead of suicide – hanging from a tall ladder at the family’s Gulf Shore Boulevard home in July 2002.

    Kara Jaye Anne Fuller-Otter, age 12, was on Paxil when she hung herself from a hook in her closet. Kara’s parents said “…. the damn doctor wouldn’t take her off it and I asked him to when we went in on the second visit. I told him I thought she was having some sort of reaction to Paxil…”)

    Gareth Christian, Vancouver, age 18, was on Paxil when he committed suicide in 2002, (Gareth’s father could not accept his son’s death and killed himself.)

    Julie Woodward, age 17, was on Zoloft when she hung herself in her family’s detached garage.

    Matthew Miller was 13 when he saw a psychiatrist because he was having difficulty at school. The psychiatrist gave him samples of Zoloft. Seven days later his mother found him dead, hanging by a belt from a laundry hook in his closet.

    Kurt Danysh, age 18, and on Prozac, killed his father with a shotgun. He is now behind prison bars, and writes letters, trying to warn the world that SSRI drugs can kill.

    Woody ____, age 37, committed suicide while in his 5th week of taking Zoloft. Shortly before his death his physician suggested doubling the dose of the drug. He had seen his physician only for insomnia. He had never been depressed, nor did he have any history of any mental illness symptoms.

    A boy from Houston, age 10, shot and killed his father after his Prozac dosage was increased.

    Hammad Memon, age 15, shot and killed a fellow middle school student. He had been diagnosed with ADHD and depression and was taking Zoloft and “other drugs for the conditions.”

    Matti Saari, a 22-year-old culinary student, shot and killed 9 students and a teacher, and wounded another student, before killing himself. Saari was taking an SSRI and a benzodiazapine.

    Steven Kazmierczak, age 27, shot and killed five people and wounded 21 others before killing himself in a Northern Illinois University auditorium. According to his girlfriend, he had recently been taking Prozac, Xanax and Ambien. Toxicology results showed that he still had trace amounts of Xanax in his system.

    Finnish gunman Pekka-Eric Auvinen, age 18, had been taking antidepressants before he killed eight people and wounded a dozen more at Jokela High School – then he committed suicide.
    Asa Coon from Cleveland, age 14, shot and wounded four before taking his own life. Court records show Coon was on Trazodone.

    Jon Romano, age 16, on medication for depression, fired a shotgun at a teacher in his
    New York high school.
  6. RobertT

    RobertT Well-Known Member

    Jun 27, 2006
    If they had these drugs when I was in grade school I may have become a mass murderer. Fact is I was simply bored with school and was innocently disruptive as a result. How did any of us manage to become responsible adults with some semblance of normality without all these drugs? Perhaps it was the intoxicating effects of Hoppe's No.9 and the aroma of paper shot shells. On the other hand the knowledge that after the teacher and prinipal got a piece of my ass the real punishment awaited me at home may have made a difference. Makes my ass hurt just thinking about it!

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