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Proper Wad for Reloading Estates- Which One?

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by SD John, Feb 21, 2013.

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  1. SD John

    SD John TS Member

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    I've been reloading Estate shells using a Clybusters CB1100, the sub for WAA12SL. Have noticed less recoil, but I was told that's because I'm using the wrong wad - something about the taper of the shell. So my chamber pressure is probably less which I guess not only affects recoil but also velosity.

    So, what is the correct wad to use in 1oz reloads with Estate? Thanks
     
  2. Roc'n C

    Roc'n C TS Member

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    Down Range has a wad that works very well is this hull
    Chuck
     
  3. wayneo

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    Use the Federal 12SO or clone. The Estate is a straight walled hull, the wads you are using are for a tapered hull, and gasses and powder will blow between the wad and the hull. I do however on occasion use a 1 ounce tapered wad in a straight walled hull for 1-1/8 loads. There is data for that, and you have to use more powder.

    Wayne
     
  4. sterlingworth

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    In reloading the Federals,I've had better luck with the TGT clones from CB. When I used the win wad they turned out to be very dirty.
     
  5. Jon Reitz

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    John,

    I agree with Wayne. The 12SO wad makes a nice looking crimp in 1 oz. Estate reloads on my MECs.

    Jon Reitz
     
  6. bluskyshooter

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    Claybuster 12S0 clone is the top choice for me.
     
  7. lesharris2305

    lesharris2305 TS Member

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    Federal Top Gun and Estate hulls use the same reloading data.
    They are a straight walled hull and do not use the same wads as Winchester or Remington.
    I use the Claybuster 6100-12B wad,1oz.shot and Claydot powder,with a Federal 209 primer.
    These are my 16 yard trap loads. They work well in summer and winter.
    Claybuster supplies load data in the bag of wads.
    Les.
     
  8. valmet

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    Wayneo, why do you use a tapered wad for the 1-1/8 oz loads?- crimp, room, pressure, recoil?? i've only used the S3 and have never tried a tapered 1oz wad in the federal. thanks in advance, dennis
     
  9. wayneo

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    Dennis,

    At the time I was using FGM hulls and 700X for my handicap loads. I ran out of S3 wads and tried a Blue Duster (1-1/8) wad. Crimps were dished in bad. I looked at the Hodgdon reloading guide and low and behold it showed a lot of data for using the WAA12SL with 700X in a FGM hull.

    I had a bag of Green Dusters so I loaded up a box and went to the club and shot a round. Crimps were perfect, shell preformed great. I had to drop a 1/2 grain more powder with the 1 ounce Green Duster then I did with the S3. You can also use the WAA12 or Blue Duster for 1-1/4 ounce loads in a FGM hull if your powder is not to bulky. That combination with WST is killer.

    Wayne
     
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