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promo powder suggestions

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by v-strom 650, Oct 31, 2011.

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  1. v-strom 650

    v-strom 650 Member

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    Any experienced promo users out there have a 1 oz load combo they like in Remington hulls? I want to stay at 1200fps or under. There are several listed by Alliant but some always work better than others. Thanks, J. Terre
     
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    ou.3200 Well-Known Member

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    Remington hull, 17.5 Promo, Green Duster, R209P, 1200fps, 10,000 psi works for me. There are a couple with TGT12 wads with lower pressure that work well also.
     
  3. 3357

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    17 grains promo, winchester primer, CB1100-12 wad, Remington hull, 1 ounce shot, 1185-1200fps, 8800 psi according to alliant technician.
     
  4. v-strom 650

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    3357, I have some of these wads so I could try it, have you ever tried this load in cold weather? (I live in WI) do you get a complete burn of the powder? Thanks, anyone else?
     
  5. oskerspap12

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    I've found that Promo burns much cleaner if your pressures are on the higher end of its pressure range...........Just my experience.

    D.P.Reynolds
     
  6. Recoil Sissy

    Recoil Sissy Well-Known Member

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    v-strom 650:

    Referring to Alliant recipes you said, "... some always work better than others."

    Your statement is true more often than not. In this specific case however, not so much.

    One ounce targets loads running at 1150 - 1200 fps is the sweet spot for Promo and it's Red Dot sister. I've loaded and shot a train load of the CB100-12 wad in Remington AND AA's.

    I stick with Rem209A primers in Rem hulls and Win209 primers in AA hulls only because because that's the way Alliant lists them. If Alliant blesses the primer substitution as 3357 says, I'd load a Win209 it a Rem hull in a heartbeat.

    The Promo/CB1100 one ounce combination is fine in hot or cold weather.

    sissy
     
  7. 3357

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    Sorry for the delay, I live in northern Michigan and the load works fine all winter. Alliant did OK the use of Winchester primer for this load. Jess Reed aka 3357
     
  8. v-strom 650

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    Thanks all; anyone else feel free to chime in. I'm open to other wad suggestions like the Downrange XL-1 or others. I used those w/ claydot and had good results. J.Terre
     
  9. mrskeet410

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    I've successfully used between 16.5 to 17.8 of promo with WW-209, Rio, or Fiocchi primers; Green Dusters and CB1100-12s; Remington hull; and 1 ounce. Higher loads are more reliable in auto. I had a few <17.0 grain loads with the CD1100-12 sound goofy in sub-20 degree weather. Dunno if it was the wads or the powder drop, but they broke the targets. Other than those few goofy sounders I could never tell much difference in performance.

    Some kegs were as dirty as old Red Dot. Other kegs have been as clean as any 12 gauge powder I've used.
     
  10. xringjim

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    I've worked up loads all the way from the 16 grain to 19 grain range. No need to go any more than 17 in my opinion. At least for 16yd targets. If you insist on seeing 'inkballs', use 19. But I get plenty of great breaks AND inkballs with 17grns. TGT wad works fine. Kinda lean towards cb1100 though.
     
  11. SPACE GUN

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    I use 16.0 grains of promo with CB1100 wads, fiocchi primers in remimington hulls with great results. singles, capps (25 yd) and both shot in doubles
     
  12. ColtM1911A1

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    Promo pretty much mimics Red Dot almost to the T. I was told by an Alliant Rep that Promo is just that -- a promotion powder. If you check the loading manuals you'll see that Red Dot and Promo spec out the same. Works for me. I shot it for about a year and it worked just fine as a Red Dot replacement...

    This year I tried the new E3 and believe it is the finest short range powder ever developed. Buy a pound and try it out yourself. Throws a consistant pattern time after time; best I've ever seen. I still prefer Green Dot or American Select for handicap distances. Those slower powders just do the job better at the longer distances....good luck
     
  13. Dr.Longshot

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    17.5 to 18.0 grains of promo will be 1200fps, in a Remington STS type hull.

    I loaded some w/ 20 grains last night I have not shot yet, will try the Wednesday at AP Gun Club


    GB
    DLS
     
  14. Jon Reitz

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    Personally I think 3357 is close; very close. 16.7 or so grains of Promo with Winchester primers, Remington hulls, CB1100-12 wads and 1 oz. of shot is plenty if you want a soft load that will perform well, even in cold weather. I've drained many, many 8# kegs of Promo in the last five years and going to 17 grains and beyond becomes counter-productive with either 1 oz. or 1-1/8 oz. of shot when loading Promo.

    JR
     
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    17.7 gr promo claybuster aa 1oz clone and rio primer rem hull awsome been using this for 3years now
     
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    I use Rem hull 16.8 promo,cheddite primer and DR xl-1 lime green wad,soft and burns fairly clean and works great for me but crimps are a little dished if that bugs ya it's not for you.Jerry
     
  17. schockstrap

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    I'm surprised that you guys are going below 17.0 grains of promo without problems. I tend to buy red dot more often than promo, but with either one I've had problems going below 17 grains with a one ounce load using STS or AA hulls with a green duster wad. I've tried several flats loaded with 16.5 grains, and I always get ~20% that sound a bit off. They still break targets, but I find them very distracting (along with the stares I get from other shooters that suddenly question my reloading abilities when they hear 5 "poofs" in a round of 25 targets).

    --Dan
     
  18. Bama73

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    16.5-17.5 grains promo, DRXL-1 wad, Nobel Sport primer in a rem hull works great in any weather for me.
     
  19. grouse 1970

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    I tried 17.7 promo with claybuster 6100 with fed hull rio primer and they felt a little under powered so gonna try 18.5 which should help
     
  20. v-strom 650

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    Thanks for the info guys! I am surprised that I'm not seeing any loads w/ the TGT 12 wad or its clones. Has anyone who's gone under 17gr tried it w/ a Fed primer? J. Terre
     
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