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Profess calls cops on student for CCW presentation

Discussion in 'Politics, Elections & Legislation' started by Brian in Oregon, Feb 28, 2009.

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  1. Brian in Oregon

    Brian in Oregon Well-Known Member

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    "Political correctness is book burning without the fire."<br>
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    Professor Called Police After Student Presentation<br>
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    Posted by admin on 2/24/09 • Categorized as News<br>
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    For CCSU student John Wahlberg, a class presentation on campus violence turned into a confrontation with the campus police due to a complaint by the professor.<br>
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    On October 3, 2008, Wahlberg and two other classmates prepared to give an oral presentation for a Communication 140 class that was required to discuss a “relevant issue in the media”. Wahlberg and his group chose to discuss school violence due to recent events such as the Virginia Tech shootings that occurred in 2007.<br>
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    Shortly after his professor, Paula Anderson, filed a complaint with the CCSU Police against her student. During the presentation Wahlberg made the point that if students were permitted to conceal carry guns on campus, the violence could have been stopped earlier in many of these cases. He also touched on the controversial idea of free gun zones on college campuses.<br>
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    That night at work, Wahlberg received a message stating that the campus police “requested his presence”. Upon entering the police station, the officers began to list off firearms that were registered under his name, and questioned him about where he kept them.<br>
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    They told Wahlberg that they had received a complaint from his professor that his presentation was making students feel “scared and uncomfortable”.<br>
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    “I was a bit nervous when I walked into the police station,” Wahlberg said, “but I felt a general sense of disbelief once the officer actually began to list the firearms registered in my name. I was never worried however, because as a law-abiding gun owner, I have a thorough understanding of state gun laws as well as unwavering safety practices.”<br>
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    Professor Anderson refused to comment directly on the situation and deferred further comment.<br>
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    “It is also my responsibility as a teacher to protect the well being of our students, and the campus community at all times,” she wrote in a statement submitted to The Recorder. “As such, when deemed necessary because of any perceived risks, I seek guidance and consultation from the Chair of my Department, the Dean and any relevant University officials.”<br>
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    Wahlberg believes that her complaint was filed without good reason.<br>
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    “I don’t think that Professor Anderson was justified in calling the CCSU police over a clearly nonthreatening matter. Although the topic of discussion may have made a few individuals uncomfortable, there was no need to label me as a threat,” Wahlberg said in response. “The actions of Professor Anderson made me so uncomfortable, that I didn’t attend several classes. The only appropriate action taken by the Professor was to excuse my absences.”<br>
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    The university police were unavailable for comment.<br>
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    “If you can’t talk about the Second Amendment, what happened to the First Amendment?” asked Sara Adler, president of the Riflery and Marksmanship club on campus. “After all, a university campus is a place for the free and open exchange of ideas.”<br>
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    -Shauna Simeone, Asst. Opinion Editor
     
  2. halfmile

    halfmile Well-Known Member

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    Inferring that the student was a perceived risk could be the basis for legal redress.

    God, these pukes need to be stamped out.

    HM
     
  3. g7777777

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    Its america- they are entitled to their own opinions

    Both sides have those rights

    Safeguarding theirs safeguards ours

    That doesnt mean that the professor if he defamed someone or made a false report shouldnt be disciplined - but I dont see that allegation

    regards from Iowa

    Gene
     
  4. jagrdawger

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    Perhaps the student should file a complaint with the police about a professor threatening his 1st and 2nd amendment rights.

    My first semester I wrote a paper on a current issue (this was around the time of Morton Grove's handgun ban) - gun control. My prof said it was a well written paper on a non-issue since the SCOTUS had said we did not have the right to own since the SCOTUS refused to hear the case against Morton Grove - grade D - only one I ever got on a paper. I would love to shove that paper down his pompous, liberal throat along with a copy of the Heller decision.

    I worked 20 years ago for university security as a student and married one of the police officers so I have a good working knowledge of Iowa campus police issues. At a dance in the building that also housed the police station a gun was brandished during a black fraternity dance by a non-student from Chicago. It happened only 50 feet from the entrance to the police station. Officers responded in the most professional manor afforded them by the Board of Regents who banned officers from carrying on-duty - they all ran for their personal cars to retrieve their brief cases with their side arms in them and then followed the student off campus. Once off campus the city police stopped and arrested the perp. I can tell you I always appreciated knowing that at 2 am when I ran into trouble in a dark building my back-up would have a 3 cell maglite and if I was lucky the city might respond in 5-10 minutes if they could even find the building.
     
  5. bigdogtx

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    Gene,

    I guess you don't also see that the professor was a SHE,,,

    “It is also my responsibility as a teacher to protect the well being of our students, and the campus community at all times,” she wrote in a statement submitted to The Recorder. “As such, when deemed necessary because of any perceived risks, I seek guidance and consultation from the Chair of my Department, the Dean and any relevant University officials.”

    I sure would like to see the list of names of the "students" that feel threatened,,,,

    Just how did this take place,,,,

    "That night at work, Wahlberg received a message stating that the campus police “requested his presence”. Upon entering the police station, the officers began to list off firearms that were registered under his name, and questioned him about where he kept them."

    Aren't the 4453's supposed to be "destroyed" after a period of time and how did the "campus cops" get the info?????
     
  6. Jerbear

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    Hopefully these will get passed in Michigan. HR4348 above and these below.


    Rep. Opsommer offered the following concurrent resolution:

    House Concurrent Resolution No. 9.

    A concurrent resolution to reaffirm the right to bear arms under the Michigan Constitution, the supremacy of the Second Amendment over the Commerce Clause, and the intent of the Michigan Legislature to not recognize or enforce unconstitutional firearm restrictions placed upon its citizens.

    Whereas, Article I, Section 6 of the Michigan Constitution, clearly affirms a right to bear arms. This provision prescribes that the primary purpose of the right to bear arms is not related solely to hunting but clearly allows Michigan citizen’s to be able to protect one's self, family, and possessions from the private lawlessness of other persons or potential tyranny of governments; and

    Whereas, There are also federalism provisions under the United States Constitution that prohibit the federal government from interfering with the right to bear arms within Michigan. The Tenth Amendment guarantees to the states and their people all powers not granted to the federal government elsewhere in the United States Constitution; and

    Whereas, Article I, Section 8 of the United States Constitution provides the federal government with the power to regulate commerce. However, this provision only empowers the government to regulate commerce between states and cannot be used to impose regulations onto firearms beyond this scope or that are at cross-purposes with the Second Amendment; and

    Whereas, Several new federal laws have been proposed that would overstep the bounds of both the Second Amendment, Michigan’s sovereign constitution, and its firearm laws; and

    Whereas, It is not the intent of the Michigan Legislature to pass laws that would mandate the use of “coded,” “serialized,” or “chipped” ammunition, to create databases of such ammunition, or to outlaw the ability of people to hand load otherwise lawful ammunition. Furthermore, it is not the intent of the Michigan Legislature to pass laws that would mandate the use of so called “smart gun” technology that wirelessly or otherwise authenticates and enables a firearm to be used by only one person. Furthermore, it is not the intent of the Michigan Legislature to allow for licensing schemes for the purchase of firearms that would mandate facial recognition, iris scans, fingerprinting, or other advanced biometric technology. Furthermore, it is not the intent of the Michigan Legislature to regulate the private transfer or sale of firearms beyond what is currently required by law. Furthermore, it is not the intent of the Michigan Legislature to pass laws that would make firearm ownership or use dependent upon the purchase of personal insurance policies or other similar risk instruments. Furthermore, it is not the intent of the Michigan Legislature to prohibit firearm ownership to individuals based upon their reporting of the past use of pain killers or other medications for surgical recovery, dental procedures, and other legitimate medical purposes. Furthermore, it is not the intent of the Michigan Legislature to pass laws that would infringe upon the ability of firearm owners to keep such weapons loaded and readily accessible within their homes, or that would allow for officials to inspect firearms within their homes without first obtaining a valid search warrant issued in conjunction with a lawful criminal investigation. It is however the intent of the Michigan Legislature to ensure that such firearm schemes are not imposed upon the citizens of Michigan by either the federal government or itself, and would view such infringements as violations of both the Second Amendment and the Michigan Constitution; now, therefore, be it

    Resolved by the House of Representatives (the Senate concurring), That we reaffirm the right to bear arms under the Michigan Constitution, the supremacy of the Second Amendment over the Commerce Clause, and the intent of the Michigan Legislature to not recognize or enforce unconstitutional firearm restrictions placed upon its citizens.

    Resolved, That copies of this resolution be transmitted to the President of the United States Senate, the Speaker of the United States House of Representatives, members of the Michigan congressional delegation, and the head of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms.

    Along with this one...

    HOUSE BILL No. 6518


    September 24, 2008, Introduced by Rep. Opsommer and referred to the Committee on Judiciary.



    A bill to amend 1927 PA 372, entitled



    "An act to regulate and license the selling, purchasing,

    possessing, and carrying of certain firearms and gas ejecting

    devices; to prohibit the buying, selling, or carrying of certain

    firearms and gas ejecting devices without a license or other

    authorization; to provide for the forfeiture of firearms under

    certain circumstances; to provide for penalties and remedies; to

    provide immunity from civil liability under certain circumstances;

    to prescribe the powers and duties of certain state and local

    agencies; to prohibit certain conduct against individuals who apply

    for or receive a license to carry a concealed pistol; to make

    appropriations; to prescribe certain conditions for the

    appropriations; and to repeal all acts and parts of acts

    inconsistent with this act,"



    (MCL 28.421 to 28.435) by adding section 12c.



    THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF MICHIGAN ENACT:



    Sec. 12c. (1) A person described in subsection (3) shall not



    do any of the following:



    (a) Create a visible representation or a biometric record of



    an individual who is purchasing a firearm or ammunition, except for





    a visible representation created incidentally to the routine use of



    surveillance cameras.



    (b) Link a visible representation of a firearm or ammunition



    transaction to an individual, except at the request of law



    enforcement or pursuant to a court order.



    (2) A person described in subsection (3) who violates



    subsection (1) is guilty of a misdemeanor punishable by



    imprisonment for not more than 1 year or a fine of not more than



    $500.00, or both.



    (3) Subsections (1) and (2) apply to a seller or a federally



    licensed firearms dealer.
     
  7. Bisi

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    "They told Wahlberg that they had received a complaint from his professor that his presentation was making students feel “scared and uncomfortable"."

    Well gee I guess we ought to call the cops the next time this professor mentions Obama. Anytime somebody mentions Obama and his socialist agenda it sure as hell makes me “scared and uncomfortable".

    Your tax and tution money at work. And they say we don't spend enough money on education. If the school has money to hire a clown like this then they must be over funded.
     
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