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Price will not be an issue a year from now...

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by capvan, May 17, 2009.

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  1. capvan

    capvan Active Member

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    A year from now, no one will be talking about high prices. Price will not be an issue, availability will be the ONLY issue. Things are drying up and will continue to do so....

    Bruce
    KB1IIX@ARRL.net
     
  2. Spanky

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    Than buy it now so that you have it for next year. Please give us a detailed list of what is not going to be here next year.
     
  3. bfre49849

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    I suggest we need to rethink your basic premise. The "Market" will dictate what is available (and the price) unless/until Uncle Sam regulates and taxes the hell out of the product(s) being offered. The companies that manufacture firearms and components PROFIT from bringing their products to market and selling them for a HIGHER margin. As a result, they are incented to produce what the "Market" demands unless the Government obstructs or otherwise meddles with their natural inclination.

    If these companies can increase their profit margins on the back of the hysteria that emanates from the fact the liberals have cornered the market on "Power" within our Nation's capital, more power to them. That's Capitalism for you; and, lest I remind you Capitalism and Profit have never been four letter words! However, any company acts as the "profiteer" in the short-run pays for it in the long-run".

    The real issue before us has everything to do with the nature of the laws, regulations and taxation policies being advanced and acted upon by our not-so-illustrious "Poly-tics". As strong proponents of the Second Amendment, we ALL need to hold our "elected, appointed and anointeds" accountable for their actions, their votes and their misdeeds. We need to stand up in grandiose defiance (much like the good conservatives of Montana have) and stop the non-sense that has been (and continues to be) advanced by the liberals and the "mindless masses" that vote them in to office. We need to realize that a vote for a "Poly-Tic" of the liberal persuasion literally erodes our right to own, carry and fire our favorite shooting iron or smoke pole!

    Just my two cents....

    Brett French
    Ishpeming, MI
     
  4. ou.3200

    ou.3200 Well-Known Member

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    Oil companies are not the problem. It is the Obama administration. They have added more to the debt than all the other presidents combined. Obama reversed the decision to drill offshore and develop our domestic oil supplies. If you look back, when Bush announced that additional drilling for oil would be allowed offshore oil prices immediately began to fall. Put the blame of higher energy prices where it belongs.
     
  5. halfmile

    halfmile Well-Known Member

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    Lead Man, where do you get that priceless bit of information?

    I'm sure lots of companies shut down in the middle of their busiest time ever.

    Good Lord.

    HM
     
  6. comp 1

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    You'll never convince me that oil prices are not to blame for our whole financial meltdown--when gas went to 4 bucks a gallon people spent money on gas to drive and didn't have enough money to make their house payments--say what you will but this country will always be cars first and everything else later.It's simply the way our country is set up--people HAVE to drive and use oil/gas. This isn't europe where they still have mom and pop corner stores,people riding bikes and no shopping malls,suburbs, etc. I believe in free enterprise but the oil co.'s are breaking every anti trust law on the books with the blessing of the federal govt. Does ANYONE think that the oil co.'s are NOT a monopoly? Obama and his socialist ilk are of no help to this country's problems.
     
  7. GW22

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    Nothing like throwing out a vague statement with zero explanation or evidence to support it.

    If I believed that "Things are drying up and will continue to do so" and that "availability will be the ONLY issue" in a year from now, I would simply liquidate my assets and invest them in whatever "things" I believed that about. Then in a year I'd rake-in the massive profits. Duh.

    -Gary
     
  8. b12

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    It comes down to the lack of mindful knowledge, poor education,and just plain dumbass greed. Two out of the three is easy to bluff. The third will rollover their dead grandmother in her grave if they thought she was laying on a penny.

    The first two can be fixed and the third will never change. Take a look at your new president. The only change that has come is people out of work, wanting to raise higher taxes,and not on the rich but the poor middle income working man.

    When the quiet have been beaten down enough,they will rise up with a vengence that no government can quill. This asshole cabinet that is in power now is about to fall apart. The name calling is starting and a few so called suicides have happened. It will be very soon the legal crap will start to fly and then the pointing fingers. Soon it will be a broken mess and we the quiet and hardworking well educated on political views will start putting it back together again.

    It will soon be time to kick those weakminded liberals out in the ocean and shut them up for good.

    Enough for now I'm sure your president and his people are monitoring this.
     
  9. Setterman

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    Bush isn't around anymore, and you have to blame somebody, so now it's the oil companies? It's a world commodity. Our oil companies have nothing to do with setting the price, cause they, or I should say we, don't produce much oil in the US. DRILL HERE NOW. Blame Obama and his buddies. They want oil high so less is used and they be credited for "saving the environment". In the mean time every american business that competes globally is handicapped, and our standard of living goes down.
     
  10. ou.3200

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    Oil prices absolutely figure into the price of everything that we buy but price increases were NOT in progress before Obama took office. Bush urged Congress to authorize additional drilling offshore June, 2008. The oil price then was in the $126 bbl range. It immediately began a steady decline and by January, 2009 was about $33 bbl. Obama's position of keeping the drilling ban on was well known. The oil prices have steadily increased since he took office. The crude oil price Friday was in the $55-56 bbl range. Oil refiners buy oil on the world market and crude prices are the biggest factor in the price of gasoline.

    Oil companies have provided the energy that has driven our economy for many years. Government regulation, intervention and obstructed has served to increase the price while limiting the supply. Examples: requirements for "boutique" blends of gasoline in different areas causing distribution problems, mandating ethanol that reduces the gas mileage of vehicles, putting oil shale off limit for development, denying permission to drill in ANWR, refusing to allow additional refineries to be built, withholding oil leases where oil is likely located in the United States, banning offshore drilling. Need I go on?

    Obama has on the horizon now what they call Cap and Trade. It is actually a huge tax on energy and transfer of wealth mainly from you to the government. If you want higher energy prices punish the oil companies and sit by while Cap and Trade becomes law. Don't be taken in by the Democrats and so called main stream media which have fostered the notion that price increases are due to greed of the oil companies. Compare their profit margins per dollar of sales with other corporations such as Microsoft. You will be surprised at the results.
     
  11. samiam03

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    I'm not a democrat, republican, libertarian, communist, independent, liberal, conservative, radical, left or right. As far as I'm concerned if their lips are moving they're lying. It's been that way for centauries. Diogenes is still searching.

    I love oil - but more than oil I love the very short memories of the American public. The more oil goes up - the more money I make. Oil comes down in price I still make money. We recently had oil prices above $4.00 per gallon. Now the price is down and more reasonable and the American public has started to buy gas guzzling SUV's again - sales are up in the last quarter for that segment of the market. Me - I get 34mpg and have enough room for my dog, my kid and two weeks of groceries - and still pass any SUV on the highway including the Porsche Cayenne.

    You're either part of the problem or part of the solution.

    Facts and figures speak volumes:


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    There's a lot of blame to go around.

    Sam
     
  12. ronbo142

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    Gloom and doom!

    Ronbo
     
  13. ou.3200

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    The rise to $4.00 per gallon would not have happened had the Democrats not blocked every effort to drill for oil, build refining capacity and develop our other energy sources. The Democrats would not allow drilling in Alaska, in the lower 48 nor offshore. No oil shale or additional refineries either. There were speculators in the market buying future contracts feeding on the lack of vision on energy by the Democrats who controlled congress. Speculators are not big oil companies. That is why they all bailed out when Bush backed drilling offshore. Now they are back in because Obama has no energy policy that is going to produce sufficient energy to keep the economy going or keep energy prices low.

    Big oil as you call it is thankfully successful in providing energy and making money. They take huge risks and their return per dollar of sales or gallon sold is not out of line, they just sold a lot of gallons. Just remember when you pull up to the pump the gasoline is there. Obama and the government didn't put it there.
     
  14. rick979

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    Hell.... I don't care. I just hope I am still here a year from now paying BIG money for everything I buy. First things First.
     
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