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Price of Walmart coming to town

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  1. Dahaub

    Dahaub Active Member

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    I don't know any web sites that talk about it. I do have a book and on page 4it states that on average over 100 stores go out of business when a Walmart is built in a small town. It also states that for every 10 million insales they employ sixty five to seventy people. Other small businesses employ one hundred and six per 10 million in sales. The areas loose 1.5 jobs per Walmart job and for the most part the jobs lost are better paying than the jobs that Walmart gives. I guess it's the price of progress. I grew up in a small town in south central Illinois, Vandalia to be exact. I can remember when on a weekend day or evening one couldn't find a parking space in town up and down the main business district street, Gallatin st. when Walmart came to town there about 20 years ago the small businesses just started closing down. Then they couldn't rent the old businesses and a lot of them were vacant for years. Now there are a lot of offices that offer things we never heard of forty years ago. On Saturday night in that town now one could almost play baseball on the main street and dodge the cars that cruise the strip. The book I have is the one written by Bill Quinn and it's titled "How Walmart is Destroying America. Basiscally it's a lesson plan on how to take the businesses in a small town and put them under to get their business. Pretty tough to read and realize that this is happening thruout America. Dan
     
  2. tinylo

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    Can't really blame Wal-Mart. Milling around buying up a bunch of cheap-ass shit or saving 24 cents on a tube a freckle cream is what passes for entertainment for a lot of Americans these days.

    Walmart also has a very powerful business model in that it employs local people who can only shop at Walmart. So the money they pay out comes right back into the till as employees buy their macaroni and cheese dinners. So $7 hour in wages is actually more like $5-6/hr due to the profit made on employee expenditures.

    Not many perpetual motion business models like this floating around...brilliant. Will perpetuate as long as americans buy solely on price without weighing quality and place minimal value on the time they spend sifting through the crap in these places.
     
  3. shot410ga

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    If you want all the neat little stores, with all the people that know what their talking about to close; Well! Let a Walmart move into your small town. No one at a Walmart will know anything about what they sell. Nor will they service anything that they sell. Downtown will also die and have plywood over their windows and weeds growing out of the sidewalk cracks. The new American way. That's how we keep the factories in China fully employed.
     
  4. timberfaller

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    Walmart is just like most of America, getting dumber as time goes on!

    We have Obama in office, which is further proof!

    Shop around, they don't always have the best prices!

    When Walmart came to our area, There was not 100 small busniess's around to effect, it was built to accomadate the Canadain's, 40 miles to the north.

    We shop where our dollar goes the furthest, because Obama's after every dollar I try to make!
     
  5. Milkbone

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    Like EE said, downtowns were dying long before WM existed, so that's a big bunch of BS. In my area, we look forward to getting more WMs because they are a magnet for development. Look around most any WM and you will see that it's not alone. One recently opened a long way from anything. Within a year, there was a Lowes opened next to it along with several shopping centers. Then, several housing developments were built in the area. Oh, yea, I forgot about the restuarants that were built in the area. Without WM, the area would still be barren.

    Just because some liberal, union loving idiot wrote some book doesn't mean it's true. If WM didn't exist, there would be a similar company for the liberals to whine about. Funny, they didn't whine so loud about Sears when it was king of the hill. That's because Sears was unionized and WM isn't. Whine about WM all you want, liberal twits, but people who value their money will continue to frequent them.
     
  6. Steve W

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    I'm not siding with Walmart, I don't even shop at walmart because Costco is only 5 minutes away from me.

    Business is build on demands. Why American shop at Walmart is why walmart exist and keep expending.

    Sam Walton made a good example of a successful American story who started as a store clerk in JC Penny. How he made himself the richest man in America (before Bill Gates) is not by stealing or cheating his customers and his employees.

    No one was forced to take his offer, they walk in his shop either buying or filling the application on their free will. If Walmart isn't good at both ends, it won't exist.
     
  7. The Rock

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    Downtown dying? Springfield, OH has been dead for twenty years. The mall killed it way before WalMart ever came to town.

    Drive downtown and have the privilege of feeding a parking meter (if you could find one) or pay to park in the garage parking. Then walk 3 blocks for what? The same thing at WallyWorld for 25% less and in and out.

    Go to the Mall park for free and all the stores you need are right there.

    Now of days it is strip malls that are killing the malls. No two hours of wandering around in a building the size of Kansas.

    This day and age convenience is the more important part of buying.

    We have two WalMarts now. And at the last count 32 restaurants around one of them, Well within 1/2 mile on both sides of the road.

    As far as price goes the Odd Lots just went out and the main reason was WalMart undersold them on the same items.

    I still go to the convenience store for the odd item I need at the moment as I hate going to a big store and taking the three block walk inside Kroger's to get a loaf of bread.

    Rock

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  8. ivanhoe

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    Dahaub

    " don't know any web sites that talk about it. I do have a book and on page 4it states that on average over 100 stores go out of business when a Walmart is built in a small town."

    A prime topic from one who also believes that Obama has all the answers!!!!!

    What else would you expect???????

    Bob Lawless
     
  9. W.P.T.

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    The book that has all of the answers was written by a left winger who hates progress unless its turned in his or her direction which is where the book idea came from ... Hell, Its a wonder everyone don't say Obama wrote that book because we all know he knows everything, about everything ... WalMart is big business and the percentages as stated are grossly over inflated to make it even more dramatic ... If WalMart don't have it, you probably don't need it and so it goes ... WPT ... (YAC) ...
     
  10. TOOLMAKER 251

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    I have to agree with milkbone 100% I just got back from a Walmart superstore 1/2 hour ago. On the same site that was once farm property is an Autozone, a bank, a strip mall with around 10 stores in it. No business's went under, new ones sprung up.
     
  11. halfmile

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    Walmart does some very heavy arm twisting if they are going to bless your town.

    They call the shots on streets, they get tax exemptions for a period of years, and do a whole lot of other under the table dealings that do not hlp the community.

    One of ours was built on reservation land, and if you are an Indian youshow your card and get exempted from the state sales tax. The rest of the people have to make that up.

    Funny, the Indians still ride on state highways to get there.

    HM
     
  12. TOOLMAKER 251

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    The indians didn't make the law, white man did. I would like to add that in my area which is rural Walmart employs many senior people on fixed incomes, that makes them OK in my book.
     
  13. ivanhoe

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    "I would like to add that in my area which is rural Walmart employs many senior people on fixed incomes, that makes them OK in my book."

    I will also mention that By employing these seniors the also provide these people the ability to buy health insurance that supplements Medicare and give the seniors a more complete insurance that is so important at there age.

    Bob Lawless
     
  14. W.P.T.

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    Native Americans are tax exempt any place they go, not just on the reservation as long as they have proof that they are tribal associated ... With the many ways the white man screwed the Indians in the past its amazing that all of us are not part Indian, but thats another story ... WPT ... (YAC) ...
     
  15. halfmile

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    It's a complicated issue. Since the Mafia showed The Indians how to make money with casinos (thereby increasing their slot manufacture and leasing business a hundredfold) they have been able to afford a lot of high powered legal talent.

    Many of these do nothihng but write grant applications, a blizzard of them, and a lot of them are fulfilled.

    They get more Federal money now than ever before, plus the millions of gambling dollars from all the visitors. In this area they have been buying up local residential property and taking it off the tax rolls. This is devastating to the local governments affected. Someone has to pay for infrastructure and services, and there are token payments from the tribe, but nothing approaching reality.

    It may be different elswhere, but that's the way it is here.

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  16. trim tab

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    Remember a good retailer is not a good seller, it is a good buyer and that is what Wal Mart is. If three stores in town sell same product and one is cheaper then the others where is the buying public going to go. Maybe not immediately, but eventually. Nuff said!!
     
  17. crusha

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    I hate the place. Never go there if I can avoid it. It makes me ill.

    About 5 yrs. ago I needed new binoculars for a hunting trip...my old 1960's TASCO's seals went bad & got moisture in them, so I figured I'd splurge on new ones for the first time in my life. WalMart had a $130 set of Nikons I was interested in. Waited 10 minutes...no salesperson in Sporting Goods. Walked to Toy section and asked for help..."Yes sir, we'll send someone right over." Waited 10 more minutes...NOBODY SHOWS UP...walked all the way to Electronics..."We'll send someone over"...5 minutes later, the S.G. manager shows up. I look at the 'nocs, read the labels on groceries on the other end of store through them & decide to purchase. Salesman says, "I'm afraid we might not have any more of those..."...looks under counter...goes in back of store...sorry, no luck. I said, "Ok, I'll just buy these" (the set I'm holding in my hand).

    "I'm sorry, sir...I can't sell you those."

    Me: "What?"

    "Those are the last pair...we're not allowed to sell the display model."

    Me: "You're kidding? I've got $200 cash in my pocket...you've got a pair of binoculars...why can't we just make a sale here?"

    "No sir, that's the policy...we have another shipment coming in a week or two." (...too late for my trip).


    ...So, I left, and on the way out the door, (I'm already pretty pissed off) some doddering, fat old woman in a blue vest says "Thank you for shopping at WalMart." I tell you, it was all I could do to keep from blowing up. I can't find a salesperson for over 20 minutes...apparently because all available employees are in front of the store wearing stupid blue vests, greeting people and adding no value whatsoever. Then when I find something I want, and a person to show it to me, THEIR STORE POLICY WON'T ALLOW THEM TO SELL IT TO ME!


    What a useless, stupid f__king place. As I said, I hate the place, and never go if I can avoid it. Up until that point, I had been buying a fair amount of the $14.88 WallyWorld Federal 100 packs there, for league shoots and stuff. Right then and there, I quit buying anything from them, and started buying my cheapo Estates at the gun club.

    My money will go to places that aren't f'ing stupid.
     
  18. ivanhoe

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    "What a useless, stupid f__king place. As I said, I hate the place, and never go if I can avoid it. Up until that point, I had been buying a fair amount of the $14.88 WallyWorld Federal 100 packs there, for league shoots and stuff. Right then and there, I quit buying anything from them, and started buying my cheapo Estates at the gun club."

    So lets see you get pissed off and stop buying what you have been buying just because you lack the intelligence to figure out how to get what you want. Not to mention you didn't get the binoculars. It figures sounds just like you. WA WA I want it now!!!!!!

    If you go to the web site and pick an item any item it give you options and if it is an item that is sold in stores it will even find a store that has it within a certain radius of your location.

    It also give you the option to order the item you wish and have it shipped to your local store. When it come through the door at the local store it is scanned into the store inventory and the computer at the Wal-Mart automatically sends you a n email that the item is there you print the email and bring it to the store get the item and pay for it and it is yours it takes all of 5 day tops.

    Of course that makes them to f__king stupid Ya right. You should stay away from Wal-Mart you aren't smart enough to take advantage of what they offer any way.

    Bob Lawless
     
  19. Milkbone

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    Methinks Buzzy has some anger issues as well as latent liberal tendencies! LMAO

    If I refused to frequent every retailer who did or does something I don't like, I'd have far more money because I'd have no place to spend it.
     
  20. Joe Potosky

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    I was in Gander Mt. last week and they were selling 100 shell value packs at $29 and up.

    Walmart had them from $20 - $22
     
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