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Discussion in 'Off Topic Threads' started by wireguy, Jul 25, 2013.

  1. wireguy

    wireguy TS Member

    Jan 29, 1998
    Which state has the least number of people on food stamps who are eligible? You can see the charts at the link.


    Daniel J. Mitchell

    Which State Has the Most Self-Reliant People?
    Daniel J. Mitchell | Jul 25, 2013

    Back in 2010, I put together a “Moocher Index” as a rough measure of which states had the highest levels of welfare dependency after adjusting for poverty rates.

    My goal was to answer this question.

    Is there a greater willingness to sign up for income redistribution programs, all other things being equal, from one state to another?

    It turned out that there were huge differences among states. Nearly 18 percent of non-poor Vermont residents were utilizing one or more welfare programs, putting them at the top of the Moocher Index.

    In Nevada, by contrast, less the 4 percent of non-poor residents had their snouts in the public trough.

    Does this mean Nevada residents are more self-reliant and Vermont residents are culturally statist?

    To be perfectly frank, I don’t know, in part because the Moocher Index was an indirect measure of attitudes about dependency.

    So I was very interested when I came across some state-by-state numbersfrom the Department of Agriculture showing food stamp participation compared to food stamp eligibility.

    Food Stamp Participation Rate

    There are some clear similarities between these food stamp numbers and the Moocher Index. Maine and Vermont are in the top 3 of both lists, which doesn’t reflect well on people from that part of the country.

    And Nevada and Colorado are in the bottom 10 of both lists.

    But there’s no consistent pattern. Mississippi and Hawaii are in the top 10 of the Moocher Index but bottom 10 for food stamp utilization.

    What really stands out, though, is that the people of California win the prize for self reliance, at least with regard to food stamps. Only 55 percent of eligible people from the Golden State have signed up for the program. Doesn’t make sense when you look at some of the crazy things that are approved by California voters, but I assume the numbers are accurate.

    I’m also surprised that folks from New Jersey are relatively unlikely to utilize food stamps.

    On the other hand, why are Tennessee residents so willing to use my wallet to buy food?

    As you can see from the map, they not only have a very high participation/eligibility rate, but also have one of the highest overall levels of food stamp dependency.

    Oregon, not surprisingly, always does poorly, whether we’re looking at a map or a list.

    Let’s close with a few real-world examples of what we’re getting in exchange for the tens of billions of dollars that are being spent each year for food stamps.

    Using food stamps to buy luxury coffee at Starbucks.
    Buying steaks and lobster with food stamps.
    The Obama Administration rewarding states that sign up more food stamp recipients.
    Proposals to make it easier to use food stamps at fast food restaurants.
    College kids scamming the program for handouts.
    New York City giving food stamps to newly released prisoners and running foreign-language ads encouraging more people to sign up for the program.
    The Octo-Mom mooching off the food stamp program.
    The Agriculture Department running radio ads to lure more people into food stamp dependency.
  2. Brian in Oregon

    Brian in Oregon Well-Known Member

    Jan 29, 1998
    Deplorable Bitter Clinger in Liberal La La Land
    Oregon does poorly because of two things.....

    Liberals have their welfare vote slaves in the urban areas, providing food stamps for votes.

    And the working class in the rural timber areas are now the unemployed class because the liberals shut down the timber industry.
  3. C-Money

    C-Money Active Member

    Jan 29, 1998
    Grant County WA
    Washington is in the same boat as Oregon.
  4. tachyon

    tachyon Active Member Verified Youth Coach/Director

    Jan 29, 1998
    The food stamp program has gone to an electronic card called an EBT card. It looks like and works just like a credit card. Many convenience stores have changed their receipt program so that individual purchases are not identified particularly alcohol and cigarettes. In this way people with EBT cards can buy alcohol with their food stamp dollars.

    There is no longer any identification required to use the EBT card. I can go to a lot of places in Omaha and buy a $100 EBT card for $50 cash. They get the cash for drugs and I get $100 in food.

    An article in the Los Angeles papers indicated that just in California more than $7 million of EBT card money was used on cruise ships and in casinos. What a great country.

    The program has become the largest part of the farm bill. It was developed to assist those who most need help, but in the execution the amount of abuse is substantial.
  5. dirt stirrer

    dirt stirrer Well-Known Member

    Feb 4, 2013
    Bartlesville, OK

    Your info an what is done with the cards may be accurate, but EBT is a the new form of welfare payment and SNAP is the new moniker for foodstamps.