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Powder to Replace Hodgdon Clays?

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by MTA Tom, May 19, 2009.

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  1. MTA Tom

    MTA Tom Active Member

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    I've reloaded AA hulls with Winchester primers and wads, and Hodgdon Clays powder for a long time. I knew Winchester 209 primers were currently unavailable, but Remington 209's will substitute in my loads according to the Hodgdon web site. I've now been told that Clays, and any other powder that can be used in handgun loads, is also unavailable.

    What clean burning powder would you recommend? Any thought on primers?
  2. dverna

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    You could try Clay Dot from Alliant.

    I use Promo it is inexpensive but it is not "clean". I wipe down the breach block after every day of shooting and the barrels get cleaned every 2-3000 rounds.

    Don Verna
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    I'll second Clay Dot. It's about as close as you are going to get. You could also consider e3. That's my fav for fast powders.
  4. phirel

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    Clay Dot has burning characteristics nearly identical to Clays. The same people who told the Australians how to make Clays now make Clay Dot in the USA.

    Pat Ireland
  5. Hauxfan

    Hauxfan Moderator Staff Member

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    Clay Dot is what I use. As far as I'm concerned, it is identical.

    I can switch from one to the other on my reloader and never have to change anything and it drops the same amount.

    Hauxfan!
  6. Clay KillR

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    I've been very happy with E3 for 7/8oz. and 1oz. loads, both around 1195fps. The recoil will be pretty sharp with 11/8oz., especially HDCP loads. Very clean, very consistent. Slightly cheaper. ($2-3 less/8lbs. vs. Clays)

    Go down one bushing from what you use in Clays and you'll get a load that uses 0.5-1.0 grains less than Clays with roughly 10-15fps more velocity; more loads per bottle. MADE IN THE USA!

    As Always, verify your powder drops with a scale.
  7. colonel klink

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    Clays is easy to find around here! Just bought some last Thursday night at the club. I'd say search around a little & I think you will find the Clays.
    Wouldn't think they would quit making it. Colonel
  8. fssberson

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    700X is a good substitute. Fred
  9. Quack Shot

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    Clay Dot! It will cost a little less too!
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    I'm somewhat in the same situation as you and many others. I'm looking forward to switching over to Clay Dot. Heck, I'm a die hard Clays user but, if it ain't there and I switch I ain't going back. I think I'm gonna find that it has been over rated and over priced.
  11. phirel

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    Spanky- If you liked Clays, you will like Clay Dot even better.

    Pat Ireland
  12. MTA Tom

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    Is there a Clay Dot recipe for 1200 fps with 1 1/8 oz in AA hulls?
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    MTA Tom,
    Clay Dot uses the same recipes as Clays.
    Don Verna
  14. Jerry944t

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    Another vote for ClayDot. Can't tell any real life difference between it and Clays except it's not as expensive.
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    What Hornady Bushing # to throw 17.4 of Clay Dot? Fred
  16. MTA Tom

    MTA Tom Active Member

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    Hi Don

    I don't have any reason to doubt you, but I don't see a 1200 fps 1 1/8 load in AA hulls listed on the Alliant web site. Do you use a published recipe?

    Tom
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    If you like Hodgdon products, as I do, try Titewad or Titegroup.

    They are denser powders, so they will not take up as much space in the hull as Clays does.

    Both very clean.
  18. BigM-Perazzi

    BigM-Perazzi Well-Known Member

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    for 1200 with an 1 1/8 I think I'd try red dot, or american select...although alliant does show a 1200 with 18.8 gr claydot using rem primers and a STS hull...
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  20. berettagold53954

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    once again smittys guns in deerfield wi has a ton of win 209 and rio primers ammo for about any gun and clays and many powders its an untapped resource
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