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Pike County, Illinois opposes more gun laws

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  1. EDGARMCM

    EDGARMCM TS Member

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    Pike County, Illinois Votes "No"

    Pike County is renowned for some of the best whitetail and wild turkey hunting in Illinois. That deserved reputation has turned hunting into a significant revenue source for the county and its residents.

    A threat to that revenue may cause Pittsfield, the county seat, to someday be known as the spot where a quiet groundswell of protest against the growing proliferation of firearms restrictions finally erupted into grassroots action.

    On Tuesday evening the Pike County Board citing the Second Amendment of the Constitution of the United States, passed a resolution saying no to any state legislation limiting the right to keep and bear arms would be recognized in Pike County.

    Their resolution minces no words:

    "Now, Therefore, It Be And Is Hereby Resolved, that the people of Pike County, Illinois, do oppose the enactment of any legislation that would infringe upon the Right of the People to Keep and Bear Arms, and deem such laws to be Unconstitutional and beyond lawful Legislative Authority."

    In short, no state law placing any limitations on firearms will be valid in Pike County.

    This action is aimed squarely at a measure currently being proposed by the state legislature. This proposed state legislation would outlaw semiautomatic firearms and ban .50 caliber firearms (including muzzleloaders). It is being championed by two Chicago residents: Mayor Richard M. Daley and Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich.

    It may be popular in Chicago political circles, but it's not going to win Blagojevich any votes in Pike County.

    One of the two Pike County Board Members who sponsored the Resolution, Robert Kanady, says he hopes the measure would "be the spark that lights a cannon heard all across the United States."

    Co-sponsor Mark Mountain said: "We have to stand up. We have to voice our opinion. As an individual, it doesn't mean much. As a county, it means more. As three or four counties, it means a lot."

    In recognition of the resolution's importance, the Tuesday meeting was reportedly the most heavily attended public meeting in county history. Residents overflowed the courtroom, spilling out into the courthouse rotunda.

    The measure also had extensive public discussion. At one point, a reluctant commissioner raised concerns that perhaps the measure was a "political hot button" and not something in which a county government should involve itself.

    That drew an emotional response from one resident:

    "This proposed legislation would greatly harm the citizens of this county, and we believe the members of our County Board are bound by the oaths of office to speak for us on this issue.

    "The issue here is not politics, the issue is freedom. Freedom began in this nation more than 200 years ago, when small groups of people like us, in towns even smaller than ours, gathered together to tell the King who tried to rule them from a huge city an ocean away, 'Enough is enough!' Freedom will only survive today if we have the courage to do the same."

    In closing, he offered: "In this room tonight we are not conservatives; we are not liberals. In this room tonight we are not Democrats; we are not Republicans. In this room tonight we are Americans."

    The standing ovation he received was apparently enough to convince the Commission to overwhelmingly pass the measure.

    Pike County's resolution may, indeed, be unprecedented in modern history. Our research (albeit brief at this point) has yet to produce another instance of a county government having voted to refuse to enforce proposed state statutes it viewed to be in conflict with federal law.

    And the Pike County Resolution minces no words as to why they felt the action necessary: "the People of Pike County, Illinois, derive great economic benefit from all safe forms of firearms recreation, hunting, and shooting conducted within Pike County using all types of firearms allowable under the United States Constitution and the Constitution of the State of Illinois."

    The resolution also cites the Commission's sworn duty to uphold the United States Constitution and the Constitution of the State of Illinois, saying the proposed legislation currently under consideration by the Illinois State Legislature would "infringe the Right of the People to Keep and Bear Arms, and would ban the possession and use of firearms now employed by individual citizens in Pike County, Illinois, for defense of Life, Liberty, and Property, and would ban the possession and use of firearms now employed for safe forms of firearms recreation, hunting, and shooting conducted within Pike County, Illinois.

    In Canada, several provincial governments flatly refused to enforce revisions to the country's firearms registry. The provincial governments said the changers were not only ill advised, but unenforceable. Eventually their resistance became a major political factor, turning out the liberal ruling party and electing a conservative government that has systematically dismantled the registry.

    The decision in Pike County was not one that was lightly made, nor considered. Officials had carried on quiet talks with outside Illinois before Tuesday evening's vote. We have learned those talks have led other local governments to begin considering similar measures as a means of expressing their displeasure with attempts to legislate firearms out of the hands of law-abiding citizens.

    Individuals involved in those conversations speak of the frustration of a large, and formerly quiet group of citizens who feel the will of the majority of the people is being ignored by legislators.

    Should Pike County's resolution catch on across Illinois and correspondingly across America, this single action taken by a small county government may, indeed, ignite a chain of similar actions across the country that serve notice that the majority opinion of Americans heartland regarding firearms will no longer be ignored.

    We will keep you posted.


    --Jim Shepherd
     
  2. SoftCraft

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    It's time. Take this to Randolph county. Home of the WSRC. They need to do the same thing.

    IDNR needs to jump in but don't expect that one.

    Rich
     
  3. ronbo142

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    My vote is for Monroe county to do the same!

    The problem is that this story did not get picked up by the St. Louis area media.....

    Ronbo
     
  4. ilive4skeet

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    Bravo, Pike County. St Clair County Illinois should also follow suit. I agree 100% with the folks from Pike County.

    Mike
     
  5. EDGARMCM

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    I forwarded the Pike County information to one of the Randolph County Board members. I would think that if $52 million is spent in their county for the complex they would want to keep people coming there. But who knows.
     
  6. SShooterZ

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    Love it!!!
     
  7. Brian in Oregon

    Brian in Oregon Well-Known Member

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    "In short, no state law placing any limitations on firearms will be valid in Pike County."<br>
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    Uh, it doesn't quite work that way.<br>
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    State law overrides local law.<br>
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    However, the locals can direct their law enforcement to not enforce certain state laws.<br>
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    And, in most states, the local sheriff is the highest law enforcement official in the county. Even the feds are supposed to go through the sheriff when they are in his/her jurisdiction.<br>
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    One thing is for sure, no matter how this plays out, it could get interesting.
     
  8. EDGARMCM

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    Don't know if they can override state law or not, but if more counties would get on board with Pike County maybe they can get a message to the state. Yes, I know the political strength is in Chicago but at least put forth some effort to opppose them.
     
  9. halfmile

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    In reality the DA of the county has discretion over what cases are brought to court. His office not only decides to prosecute, but has the power to dismiss.

    This amounts to de facto control of enforcement. So in the case of a state law, to be prosecuted the Attorney General's office would have to prosecute if the Local DA wouldn't.

    Of course this would lead to a veritable hairball of malfeasance, dereliction, or a host of other BS accusations and maybe charges.

    All I can say is Yay for Pike county. More counties following their lead might shake the anti gun sentiment out of state politics some.

    HM
     
  10. Doctor_Chicago

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    I think citing State of Illinois Constitution is a BIG mistake, because of the "except for police powers clause" Citing the US Constitution should be the only citation.
     
  11. Ellen

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    As a former resident of Illinois for 48 years I have been waiting and yearning for the people of Illinois to wake up. Maybe this will be the spark of hope to rid the State of Illinois of these political puppets of the Richard Daley Machine. You have my best wishes and God be with you. Ellen
     
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