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Petition asking NRA to support Sharon Angle

Discussion in 'Politics, Elections & Legislation' started by wireguy, Aug 6, 2010.

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  1. wireguy

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    Sign the Sharon Angle petition for NRA to support her instead of Harry Reid here: see link above
     
  2. Brian in Oregon

    Brian in Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Shame on the NRA.
     
  3. JH

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    Here we go again.....

    According to some here, the NRA is a Communist organization......members were trained by the KGB, etc........the NRA is said to be a Trojan horse for Pelosi's social agenda, etc.

    Most of us disagree. The NRA has forced all politicians to be pro-gun -if they want to be elected. That is a victory for gun owners. Angle has a conservative social agenda. Reid an extreme liberal agenda. They both support gun rights. Again, they both support gun rights-thanks to the NRA.


    SHAME ON ANYONE WHO VALUES GUN OWNERSHIP who seeks to diminish the NRA!
     
  4. Brian in Oregon

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    Reid supports gun rights like Hitler supported the Jews.

    Stop defending the indefensible. The NRA is wrong to support an anti-gunner that they themselves gave an F grade to.
     
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    Bangalore is right on- the NRA makes their decision based on one issue and one issue only- as it should be

    most of the people that bad mouth the NRA are too cheap to join and pay a few bucks for a monthly magazine-

    btw Reid is the strongest supporter of Veterans rights over the last 20 years. I fault many his other policies.

    regards from Iowa

    Gene
     
  7. WS-1

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    I would like to test a theory I offered here at TS.Com in an earlier thread.

    Of the people who have posted on this thread, some of you voted for Obama and some of you did not.

    So, for all who posted on this thread thus far, please post again stating-

    a.) I voted for Obama in the last General Election.

    b.) I did not vote for Obama in the last General Election.

    Thank you.
     
  8. bigdogtx

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    Bangalore and Gene,,,,why should I GIVE UP ON AMERICA and support Reid????

    Are you willing to lose the ship just to save the flag????

    Are you willing to support the theft of the future of your kids and grandkids????

    Be VERY CAREFUL what you are willing to compromise on!!!!
     
  9. JH

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    Again,

    The NRA has changed the political canvas. Not too long ago, most liberals openly berated the NRA in order to get elected. Things have changed. Liberals now claim pro-gun positions in order to get elected. This is a "sea change" in political posturing.

    Angle, a social conservative, has pro-gun positions. Reid, an ultra-liberal, has pro-gun positions. Of course, they are polar opposites in virtually all other issues.

    NRA members should carefully consider whom to vote for and the ramifications of their choice. You see, unlike some on this board, I trust the judgment of NRA members and deeply resent the bullying and false accusations (Communists?) by the "odd" few.

    Vacuous attacks on the NRA membership will not go unchallenged. I find it extremely ironic that those who claim to value "gun rights" are so quick to attack the organization which makes gun ownership possible. If you hope to get NRA members to support the conservative social agenda, calling them "Communists" is a sure way of losing their support.
     
  10. Brian in Oregon

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    You trust the judgment of the NRA when they support a notorious anti-gunner whom they themselves gave an F rating to? You see nothing wrong with that?

    Have you people gone insane?
     
  11. WS-1

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    Thank you for so brilliantly making our point. Because of the efforts of the NRA, large numbers of progrssives, liberals, democrats, communists and socialists have come to realize that the 2nd Amendment, a cornerstone of The Bill Of Rights, a group of rights inviolate in our culture, and a component of the Constitution which is guarded by the Supreme Court, can not be destroyed, and the many battles they had mounted for the purpose of that destruction were all fought in vain. Using the old "If you can't beat 'em, join 'em" strategem, your leftist brethren have gladly paid homage to the 2nd Amendment, knowing full well that a 2nd Amendment allegiance would garner for them immense latitude in dealing with all the other matters that everybody else in the world has to deal with. Basically what they said was, "Hey, if those rubes over at the NRA want to believe the world is a 'one-issue' world, we ain't gonna wake them up!"

    So, sucker, here's the deal. The progressives, the liberals, the democrats, the communists, and the socialists know that all they have to do is bat their big brown eyes and coo "2nd Amendment, baby" and all the bozos that believe in the Obama schtick anyway, will go off and fondle their little guns while they (the progressives, the liberals, the democrats, the communists, and the socialsts) openly and blatantly turn this once great nation of ours into the Soviet Socialist Republic in Reeboks.

    My granddaughter already knows that she lives in a multi-dimensional universe...and she's two years old.

    Hide behind the NRA if you must, but the men I know are standing up for their Country.

    Kit Thomas
     
  12. Brian in Oregon

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    One vote for a shooting range DOES NOT offset his anti-gun history. His record is indefensible.

    Thank goodness that GOA are not drinking the liberal Kool-Aid.

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    Is Harry Reid pro-gun or anti-gun? You decide

    (Gun Owners of America) – Nevada Senator Harry Reid claims to be a defender of the Second Amendment. Is that really the case? You decide. Here is a list of votes he has cast over the past twenty years in the U.S. Senate:

    1. June 28, 1991—Voted for a 5 day waiting period for handgun purchases (Vote No. 115).

    2. November 19, 1993—Voted to eliminate the five-year sunset in the Brady Bill’s five day waiting period, which would have made the waiting period permanent (Vote No. 386).

    3. November 19, 1993—Voted to end a filibuster led by pro-gun Senators against the Brady Bill (Vote No. 387).

    4. November 20, 1993—Voted for the Brady Bill, which imposed a 5-day waiting period before purchasing a handgun (Vote No. 394).

    5. August 25, 1994—Voted to end a filibuster led by pro-gun Senators against the Clinton Crime Bill, which contained the ban on many semi-automatic firearms (the so-called “assualt weapons ban; Vote No. 294).

    6. August 25, 1994—Voted for the Clinton Crime Bill, which contained the ban on many semi-automatic firearms (the so-called “assault weapons” ban; Vote No. 295).

    7. April 17, 1996—Voted to expand the statute of limitations for paperwork violations in the National Firearms Act from 3 years to 5 years (Vote No. 64).

    8. June 27, 1996—Voted to destroy 176,000 M-1 Garand rifles from World War II, and 150 million rounds of .30 caliber ammunition, rather than giving them to the Federal Civilian Marksmanship program (Vote No. 178).

    9. September 12, 1996—Voted to spend $21.5 million for a study on putting “taggants” in black and smokeless gunpowder (Vote No. 287).

    10. September 12, 1996—Voted to make it a Federal crime to possess a gun within 1,000 feet of any school, private or public, and impose a 5-year prison sentence for violating the law (Vote No. 290).

    11. July 28, 1998—Voted against killing an amendment offered by Sen. Diane Feinstein (D-CA) to prohibit the importation of firearm magazines holding over 10 rounds that were manufactured before the 1994 ban was enacted (Vote No. 240).

    12. May 12, 1999—Voted to ban the private sales of firearms at gun shows unless buyers submitted to background registration checks. Draconian restrictions would have also been imposed on gun show promoters, expanding federal authority in this area (Vote No. 111).

    13. May 13, 1999—Voted to ban the importation of ammunition magazines that can hold more than 10 rounds (Vote No. 116).

    14. May 14, 1999—Voted for an amendment introduced by Sen. Charles Schumer (D-NY) that would regulate the transfer of firearms over the Internet (Vote No. 119).

    15. May 18, 1999—Voted for an amendment to force gun sellers to include trigger locks with every handgun sold (Vote No. 122).

    16. May 20, 1999—Voted for legislation to subject repair shop and pawn shop transactions to the same registration and background check requirements as purchases from dealers—even if a person was reclaiming his own firearm (Vote No. 133).

    17. May 20, 1999—Voted for an amendment offered by Sen. Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ) that would ban private sales at gun shows, unless the buyer first submits to a background registration check. Even displaying a firearm at a gun show, and subsequently transferring that gun to a non-licensee, would result in a two-year prison sentence. The amendment would also have granted BATF open-ended inspection authority to harass vendors at gun shows, and explicitly gives BATF the right to keep a gun owner registration list for up to 90 days. This amendment passed 51-50, with Vice President Al Gore breaking the tie (Vote No. 134).

    18. May 20, 1999—Voted for the Clinton Juvenile Justice bill, which contained a host of gun control provisions (Vote No. 140).

    19. July 28, 1999—Voted to end a filibuster on the Clinton Juvenile Justice bill. The filibuster was led by Sen. Bib Smith (R-NH) because of concerns with the gun control provisions in the bill (Vote No. 224).

    20. February 2, 2000—Voted for an amendment offered by Sens. Carl Levin (D-MI) and Charles Schumer (D-NY) to help the cities bring frivolous suits against gun makers (Vote No. 4).

    21. March 2, 2000—Voted for an amendment offered by Sens. Barbara Boxer (D-CA) and Charles Schumer (D-NY) blaming school violence on the fact that Congress “failed to pass reasonable, common-sense gun control measures” and call for new gun ownership restrictions on the anniversary of the Columbine shootings (Vote No. 28).

    22. March 2, 2000—Voted to use Federal taxpayer funds to hand out anti-gun literature in schools and to run anti-gun public service announcements (Vote No. 32).

    23. April 6, 2000—Voted for and cosponsored a “sense of the Senate” amendment urging the passage of new gun control restrictions (Vote No. 64).

    24. March 2, 2000—Voted for an amendment offered by Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-CA) urging the passage of the ant-gun juvenile crime bill being opposed by GOA (Vote No. 28).

    25. April 10, 2000—Voted for a non-binding amendment offered by Sen. Jack Reed (D-RI) urging the House-Senate conferees to get the juvenile anti-gun bill to the floor of each chamber by April 20 (Vote No. 64).

    26. May 17, 2000—Voted with 29 other F-rated Senators against an amendment stating “the right of each law-abiding United States citizen to own a firearm for any legitimate purpose, including self-defense or recreation, should not be infringed.” (Vote No. 103).

    27. May 17, 2000—Voted for a resolution praising the participants of the so-called Million Mom March, and calling on Congress to pass the anti-gun juvenile crime bill that GOA was fighting (Vote No. 104).

    28. April 2, 2001—Voted for the Incumbent Protection Act, so-called campaign finance reform (Vote No. 64).

    29. March 20, 2002—Voted to end a filibuster of the odious Incumbent Protection bill. The blatantly unconstitutional legislation squelches the voice of groups like Gun Owners of America in the final days before an election. By making it difficult, if not impossible, for groups to criticize the anti-gun actions of legislators prior to an election, incumbents are able to duck accountability for those actions (Vote No. 53).

    30. February 26, 2004—Voted for an amendment to require all handgun purchasers to pay an implicit “gun tax” by requiring them to buy a trigger lock when they purchase their handgun, irrespective of need. In addition, the amendment would create a broad cause of action against gun owners who fail to actually use the storage device to lock up their firearms (Vote No. 17).

    31. March 2, 2004—Voted to outlaw the private sale of firearms at gun shows unless the buyer agrees to submit to an FBI background registration check. This legislative would have effectively eliminated gun shows because of stringent requirements placed on event sponsors (Vote No. 25).

    32. July 28, 2005—Voted for an amendment to require all handgun purchasers to pay an implicit “gun tax” by requiring them to buy a trigger lock when they purchase their handgun, irrespective of need (Vote No. 207).

    33. September 29, 2005—Voted against John Roberts for Supreme Court Justice. Roberts’ record and testimony to the Senate show that he is strong advocate for Second Amendment rights. Had Reid’s position prevailed on this vote, the 5-4 decisions in Heller and McDonald could have gone the other way (Vote No. 245).

    34. January 18, 2007—Voted against an amendment to strike language in a bill that would infringe upon the free speech rights of groups like GOA by requiring them to monitor and report on communications with members, and could easily have led to government demands for organizational membership list (a.k.a. registration) (Vote No. 17).

    35. January 31, 2006—Voted against Samuel Alito for Supreme Court Justice. Justice Alito’s record and testimony to the Senate show that he is strong advocate for Second Amendment rights. Had Reid’s position prevailed on this vote, the 5-4 decisions in Heller and McDonald could have gone the other way (Vote No. 2) .

    36. February 2, 2009—Voted to confirm Eric Holder as Attorney General. Holder was an anti-Second Amendment official for the Clinton administration, and has called for a renewal of the Clinton gun ban (Vote No. 32).

    37. March 19, 2009—Voted to massively expand the amount of land covered by the National Parks gun ban. As Majority Leader, Reid frustrated the efforts of pro-gun Senator Tom Coburn (R-OK) for more than a year to repeal the gun ban. Sen. Coburn’s position ultimately prevailed after overcoming Reid’s opposition later in 2009 (Vote No. 106).

    38. June 25, 2009—Voted to confirm Harold Koh as Legal Advisor to the Department of State. GOA warned all Senators that Koh is a radical globalist pushing for worldwide gun control regulation, including the UN Treaty on Small Arms (Vote No. 213).

    39. August 6, 2009—Voted to confirm Sonya Sotomayor as Supreme Court Justice. GOA warned all Senators that Judge Sotomayor’s record on gun rights was one of hostility to the Second Amendment, which was born out in her dissent in the McDonald decision (Vote No. 262).

    40. September 9, 2009—Voted to confirm Cass Sunstein as Administrator of Regulatory Affairs (Regulatory Czar). GOA notified all Senators that Cass Sunstein is a radical leftist who would like to ban hunting and give animals some of the same rights as humans in the courtroom (Vote No. 273).

    41. November 19, 2009—Reid voted to confirm the highly controversial Richard Hamilton to the Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals. Judge Hamilton has stated that the Founding Fathers intended judges to amend the Constitution through “evolving case law” (Vote No. 350).

    42. December 24, 2009—Reid used his position as Majority Leader to pass the ObamaCare legislation. This bill will allow the BATFE and FBI to troll through the ObamaCare database for gun owners who would be disqualified because of their medical information (Vote No. 396).

    43. March 25, 2010—Reid voted against an amendment offered by Sen. Tom Coburn (R-OK) to prevent Veterans from losing their Second Amendment rights without due process of law (Vote No. 94).

    44. HARRY REID WILL CONTINUE TO VOTE AGAINST GUNS UNTIL HE IS DEFEATED!
     
  13. Don Steele

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    If you need the NRA...OR ACORN...Or your Union shop steward to tell you who to vote for...I'm not sure you should be voting in the first place.
    IF you fit ANY of the above...You're part of the problem.
     
  14. Model Number 12

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    I am a Life Member of the NRA. I support the NRA and donate money to them. To say my guns are important to me is an understatement and I vigorously defend our gun rights.

    Above all else, I am an American who is scared to death of the direction our country is being taken by the current political "leadership". We are drowning in debt now, and yet, they want to bury us under even more, even as I write this. This must stop.

    Harry Reid, as Senate President, is a major contributor to our current debt burden. His record is, as Brian In Oregon says, is indefensible. He must go.

    This November's elections are about much, much more than just our gun rights.
     
  15. Brian in Oregon

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    The NRA is getting a helluva lot of scrutiny coming its way because of the Reid issue. This is resulting in some embarrassing issues coming to the forefront.

    http://www.redstate.com/erick/2010/07/01/nra-now-leans-toward-endorsing-harry-reid/

    http://www.redstate.com/erick/2010/07/13/nra-openly-floats-a-harry-reid-endorsement/

    http://www.redstate.com/erick/2010/07/13/shocking-emails-show-national-rifle-association-worked-to-prohibit-rifles-from-national-parks/

    And don't forget the NRA interference in the Heller and McDonald decisions. The NRA was not keen on having these cases go to court in the first place. Pro-gunners not affiliated with the NRA got these started and pushed to the high court, not the NRA.

    There is a serious membership loss backlash coming if the NRA backs Reid.

    I would think those supporting the NRA would be worried about this, and would be questioning it, rather than blindly drinking Wayne LaPierre's Kool-Aid.

    Pity Neal Knox isn't still around.
     
  16. JH

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    WS-1,

    At one time you accused NRA members of being communists and democrats. You asked if I was a communist? I have a question for you: ARE YOU AN ANTI-GUN MOLE POSING AS A SOCIAL CONSERVATIVE?

    No, I won't help destroy the NRA. The NRA was protecting gun rights way before you were born. And will continue to do so, way after you and I are gone.

    Brian, your post of Reid's voting record is a compelling argument in revealing Reid's anti-gun positions. As I said, NRA members should carefully weigh all positions when making their vote count. You see, rational adults make their vote count after considering all aspects of an issue.

    You are allowed to own guns BECAUSE of the NRA! Join the NRA!
     
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    When you wake up late at night, and you hear moles giggling under your bed, do you call the nurse?
     
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    WS-1, quote: <i>"When you wake up late at night, and you hear moles giggling under your bed, do you call the nurse?"</i>

    I've never heard of that problem. But do tell us what you do in this situation.
     
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    When the road to victory is seen as aiding the enemy while denying the efforts of true freedom fighters, individuals, candidates or organisations, then the very concept of what constitutes victory is lost, and the word victory has no meaning. How much easyer life is when instead of thinking and weighing and measuring and observing and using logic and rational, linear thinking to reach a correct conclusion, all one need do is wave his pathetic little NRA banner as if it is a sports team effort instead of a living embodiment of the desire to be free, right bangalore? OK now bangalore, don't think, just reflexively jump to your feet and wave your pathetic little banner and yell real loud, "HURRAY FOR OUR TEAM!" Even though our team is over in the corner secretly working out a deal with the opposing team to allow them to win, it DOESN'T MATTER! It's OK, because they're OUR TEAM!
     
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    Blindly following erroneous NRA advice to vote for Reid is like Republican union members blindly following union advice to vote for Obama.
     
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