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Percentage of shooter on 27 yd line?

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by Tbonz411, Jul 15, 2009.

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  1. Tbonz411

    Tbonz411 TS Member

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    In 2008 what per cent of ATA shooters have a handicap of 27 yards? Does anyone know the current figures? Thanks in advance.
     
  2. SirMissalott

    SirMissalott Active Member

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    I can only say unequivocally that 100% of this shooter didn't see the 27 except when I was making the long walk to my spot. LOL
     
  3. st8shuter

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    good question!, i got another one how many are actually trying to make it there?
    i firmly believe making it there is the mark of a truly talented shooter, kudos to all who have made there. it clearly shows how commitedt a shooter is to the sport!
    hope to be there after the provincials!
     
  4. Tripod

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    I got to the 24 my first year of shooting registered. The 27 was my goal. I stalled out at the 24 and finally took a couple of reductions to the 22. I got my first punch in six years last year at the Iowa state shoot with a non winning 96. Obviously my goal to reach the 27 is no more. Kudos to those who make it.
     
  5. Trap2

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    To all of you above. Making it to the 27 yard line is only a very small part of being a 27 yard shooter. The real challange is earning the right to stay there based on your average. I am a 27 yard shooter, but, my averages do not support that yardage at this time. In short.... getting there is one thing...staying there is another..... Just my opinion... Dan Thome (Trap2)
     
  6. timb99

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    I am not a 27 yard shooter (made it to 25 once, then took a reduction to 24)

    I think Neil posted here once a long time ago what the number of shooters at each yardage was. He also posted a scatter graph showing averages plotted against yardage.

    I recall it was pretty clear that 27 yard shooters also tend to carry the best handicap averages.

    If I recall correctly, which is always in question.

    Heck Dan, once you get there, you can stay there forever if you want. Reductions are optional.
     
  7. Trap2

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    TIMB99.... Yeah, I understand that. Took a yardage reduction to the 26 some years ago and it took me 3 years to get back to the 27 again. I figured, the heck with it, I'll just shoot from the 27 since I can't shoot any better from the 26...lol... Dan
     
  8. trapp2012

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    I am on the 27 yard line so that is one. My father and I just had a conversation about this and it is somewhere around 13% of shooters.
     
  9. Milkbone

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    Nobody answered the question and I don't have the answer either. One thing I'm sure of - there are many times more shooters on the 27 yard line than there are shooters who belong there.
     
  10. Pocatello

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    Back on March 28 I started a thread "ATA Member List" that included much of the data you asked for. A search should find it for you fairly easily. Neil Winston supplied me with a copy of the 2008 Average Book data in MS Excel format, making a lot of analysis fairly straight forward. From that thread:

    Once again, many thanks to Neil for providing the 2008 Average Book data in Excel format. Here is some information I've gleaned about handicap shooters for 2008. Please realize the yardage listed below is the yardage where the shooter finished the year, but many of the targets may have been shot at other yardages because of punches or reductions. For example, I started the target year at 25.5 yards, shot 1200 targets there, was punched to the 26.5, shot 300 targets there, and was punched to the 27, shooting my final 1000 targets there. However my record will show up on the 27 in this data. What I’m saying is please take the following with a grain of salt.

    There were 22,864 shooters who registered handicap targets in the 2008 target year. Total handicap targets registered were 27,130,250 according to the Excel sheet, again less than the 27,558,950 that the book claims. Again I have no explanation for this discrepancy, and all the following information is based on the electronic data.

    The number of targets registered ranges from a high of 14,650 (Alvin Connerly, ID) to a low of 50 by seventy-five different people.

    There were 21 members who registered 10,000 or more handicap targets, 0.1% of the shooters who registered targets, but 0.9% of the handicap targets registered. The median of their handicap averages was 0.8979, while the median of their handicap yardages was 27 yards.

    There were 497 shooters who registered between 5,000 and 9,999 handicap targets, 2.2% of the shooters who registered handicap targets, but 11.6% of the handicap targets registered. The median of their handicap averages was 0.8788. Again the median of their handicap yardages was 27 yards.

    There were 527 shooters who registered between 4,000 and 4,999 handicap targets, 2.3% of the shooters who registered handicap targets, but 8.5% of the handicap targets registered. The median of their handicap averages was 0.8783, while the median of their handicap yardages was 26.0 yards.

    There were 1,071 shooters who registered between 3,000 and 3,999 handicap targets, 4.7% of the shooters who registered handicap targets, but 13.4% of the handicap targets registered. The median of their handicap averages was 0.8774, while the median of their handicap yardages was 25.0 yards.

    There were 2,343 shooters who registered between 2,000 and 2,999 handicap targets, 10.2% of the shooters who registered handicap targets, but 20.7% of the handicap targets registered. The median of their handicap averages was 0.8729, while the median of their handicap yardages was 24.0 yards.

    There were 5,251 shooters who registered between 1,000 and 1,999 handicap targets, 23.0% of the shooters who registered handicap targets, but 27.0% of the handicap targets registered. The median of their handicap averages was 0.8675, while the median of their handicap yardages was 23.0 yards.

    There were 13,154 shooters who registered fewer than 1,000 handicap targets, 57.5% of the shooters who registered handicap targets, but 18.0% of the handicap targets registered. The median of their handicap averages was 0.8433, while the median of their handicap yardages was 20.5 yards.

    The average number of targets registered by an ATA handicap shooter who shot handicap was 1186.6. The median number registered (half shot more, half shot fewer) was 700. The mode (most common number registered) was 100.

    The median of the ATA handicap averages (half lower, half higher) was .8595.

    The correlation coefficient between targets attempted and handicap average was about 0.26, a little weaker than the correlation for singles targets. Again there is a positive relationship between the two (i.e. the more you shoot, the better you do), but not a strong relationship.

    There were 2698 shooters showing up on the 27, 11.8% of the total. Their median number of targets was 1800, and their median handicap average was .8900.

    There were 1555 shooters showing up on the 26 or 26.5, 6.8% of the total. Their median number of targets was 1350, and their median handicap average was .8694.

    There were 1880 shooters showing up on the 25 or 25.5, 8.2% of the total. Their median number of targets was 1200, and their median handicap average was .8648.

    There were 1762 shooters showing up on the 24 or 24.5, 7.7% of the total. Their median number of targets was 1100, and their median handicap average was .8665.

    There were 1804 shooters showing up on the 23 or 23.5, 7.9% of the total. Their median number of targets was 1000, and their median handicap average was .8664.

    There were 2013 shooters showing up on the 22 or 22.5, 8.8% of the total. Their median number of targets was 800, and their median handicap average was .8700.

    There were 2213 shooters showing up on the 21 or 21.5, 9.7% of the total. Their median number of targets was 1200, and their median handicap average was .8700.

    There were 6965 shooters showing up on the 20 or 20.5, 30.5% of the total. Their median number of targets was 300, and their median handicap average was .8350.

    There were 1940 shooters showing up on the 19 or 19.5, 8.5% of the total. Their median number of targets was 500, and their median handicap average was .8023.

    There were 34 shooters showing up on the 18 or 18.5, 0.1% of the total. Their median number of targets was 1850, and their median handicap average was .8313.

    More to come.
     
  11. Tbonz411

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    Thanks for the thread reference and the info. I think it answered my basic question. Interesting reading also.
     
  12. shot410ga

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    Interesting. Thanks, for the good work......
     
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