I disagree about resale of type 3 guns I have sols a few without problems. Yes... They bring less money but they are just as reliable. I have a type 3 that has over 300,000 rounds throught it.
GN777777. Intimates that type 3 guns are near worthless. They are far from that. Yes... 20-40% less that similar type 4 guns but not worthless. These are great guns provided yo understand the differences and issues. Like I said I have one that has 250,000+ rounds thrrough it and I am not about to give it away.
Type III refer to the forend attachment design only. Rest of the gun has nothing to do with it, receiver changes is a totally different matter, and occurred in different times.
The ONLY "problem" you might see (few) is the forearm wood run a hairline crack behind the iron due to loose screw. It totally does not affect the function of the gun.
The crack can be fixed at minimum cost, if you care. Buying a replacement forearm wood is less than $100~150 if you must.
I saw one type III forearm wood cracked all the way from the back of the iron latch to the end of the back edge, the owner shot it like that for 15 years, nothing fell apart. As a matter of fact, I bought that gun and donate it to our local boy-scout shooting program and they are still shooting it without fixing the wood.
In the Blue Book, type III guns has a 15~20% less value to a comparable type IV, partially due to age too.
I'd buy any type III MX-8 at 10~20% discount verses the round monobloc models anytime.
JFYR, your can convert type III under lug to type IV for less than $200~300. plus a type IV forend iron and wood to make it type IV for less than $1000.
g777, You're full of shit. They have always sold for less than the fours but "not saleable"............ bullshit. I sell them all the time. Go sell some more of those "blow up prone" K80's you have in the back of your safe.
I hope you let the people that dont know anything and are buying from you that they will have trouble selling them if they are able to at all- should they change their mind
I am not saying that they arent good guns but if the operator snoozes then you have a cracked forearm
The market doesnt want to have to pay attention to all of that.
Regards from Iowa
Gene
PS barry Roachy- how many type 3s do you purchase at just this sligly reduced price you are talking about?
PPS- I didnt say they are "near worthless" but if fact was talking about you couldnt sell them-- just try selling them and telling the person- hey just so you know- the forearm is going to crack if you abuse your gun-- see how the sale goes after that
Geneykins. You have always been prone to stretching things a bit. Especially when you're trying to sell those blow up guns. Hell I'm scared to shoot next to one. I've seen at least three blown up and one getting ready to. A whole lot more important than a little crack on a forend.
From what I understand, type IV forend is an improved design over type III, it prevents the fore wood from possible cracking in some cases. It does not affects the function of the whole gun. Why would it be so significant to devalue one of the best shotgun in the world?
Barry Roahcy-- you didnt answer that question- how many type 3s do you purchase at just below the price of type 4s that you claim
Why are there so many P gun models
Why cant you sell 26 inch barrels or guns despite all the hall of fame shooters that shot them?
Despite all the good and new shooters that shoot them?
Who knows is the answer
The question was asked
If you all on the other hand want to pay the same for a type 3 as you do a type 4 or close to it- go ahead
I was answering the question of the person asking it and I think he probably had already heard the answer I gave- your opinions are new to him
Marketplace selection is what it is called
Regards from Iowa
Gene
PS - In case in point to what Steve W stated about durability(at least of the receiver) I think the AMU has a couple of guns that at least started off and lived their early lives as type 3s that have between 1 million and 2.2 million shells fired through them. I again am not commenting on durability
T3 forends are just like T2's and almost like T1's and NONE of them are a problem for anyone who takes care a gun costing several thousand dollars in the manner it deserves. I have a T2 here w/ about a bazillion rounds thru it and an early T3 with nearly as many and neither of them has experienced any problems of any kind.
But then I take pretty good care of things that are important to me.
Giacomo told me the Type-III fore-end would only crack if the owner insisted on over tightening the screws - told me to tighten until I felt resistance and then back off about a quarter-turn. He told me to do this each time I put the fore-end on the gun.
And, the little screw that holds the main screw in place --- take it out and chuck it as it adds to the risk of cracking.
This "problem" with the Type-III's is similar to the "problem" caused by the famous "screw-in-the-ejector" problem in K-80 barrels ---- operator error.
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