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Perazzi MX 2000-8 issues

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by MACH4RANDY, Sep 12, 2010.

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  1. MACH4RANDY

    MACH4RANDY Member

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    Bought a new MX 2000-8 with adj comb and rib & 31.5 bbl. I was so proud to have finally moved to this quality of gun. Prob is I can't score well with it ! I shoot Brownings and SKB's all with equal performance. All my guns are adj to same dimensions per the stock. I have patterned the gun and seems fine. Other than seeming a bit heavier than the Brownings but not the SKB, can't come up with fitting difference. Could this new style raised rib be my nemesis? I don't even want to shoot this gun it is embarrassing? Randy
     
  2. Garry

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    Randy,

    Please clarify what you mean when you say you patterned this gun. Did you pattern it for point of impact or pattern density or both?
     
  3. MACH4RANDY

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    Point of impact
     
  4. Garry

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    Like others have said before, shoot from post 3 with the trap locked for straight aways. Watch and have someone else watch where you are hitting the target. Adjust your comb accordingly. Some same to keep raising your comb till you start hitting the top of the target, then lower your comb till you start hitting the bottom of the target and then set your comb half way in-between.
     
  5. Garry

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    Randy,

    I just noticed that you have an adjustable rib. You can follow the same procedure above by adjusting the rib and after you get the POI set to where you are shooting the center of the target, then you can adjust your comb to get your preferred sight picture.
     
  6. zzt

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    Randy, there is a big difference between a Perazzi and a Browning or Beretta. The Perazzi moves faster and fires more quickly.

    Since you were hitting well with your Browning, and you know the POI, that is a good starting point for your Perazzi. That is what you did.

    Locking the trap is a good idea, but if you only shoot straight aways from Post 3 you have a 50/50 chance of arriving at the wrong conclusion. You will find your timing has to change, or you have to increase your POI to break the bird with the same sight picture you had with your Browning. Changing your timing is the correct answer, because if you change your POI you will have problems with the angles.

    Set up for straights on 3, you should find you have to begin the firing sequence when the bead is closer to the bird than when you used your Browning. It will take some time for your brain to get used to it. If you lock the trap for hard rights and shoot from Post 5 it will illustrate the point more clearly. When I shot my Gold E combo, I'd have to start pulling the trigger while the bead was behind the bird. When I switched to a Perazzi, I started pulling when the bead was on the bird. It has to do with the differences in the total amount of time it takes to fire between the two guns. It is more than just lock time. It simply takes less time for the gun to fire once your brain says shoot with a Perazzi vs. a Browning or Beretta. You have to learn to adjust to this difference.
     
  7. MACH4RANDY

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    If that's true then I will sell the Perazzi. I have way to many other guns to change my shooting style to fit the Perazzi. For sale 1 MX 2000-8 !
     
  8. Steve W

    Steve W Well-Known Member

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    Don't jump into conclusions, a good piece of equipment might need some practice to properly operating it, there're some differences turning a sharp corner with a Chevy Silverado than a BMW M3.
     
  9. bluedsteel

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    Randy;

    I feel your frustration. How long have you been shooting your new Perazzi? From what I can determine, it takes longer than most of us realize to adjust to a new trap shotgun.

    bluedsteel
     
  10. PerazziBigBore

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    Every new gun has a learning curve of 5000/10,000 rounds.. If you buy ANY gun.. and not ready to learn a new gun.. save your money.. If you shoot alot.. those 5000 rounds go pretty quickly.. If you don't.. it can seem like forever..

    I remember the first time I shot a K-32.. I was in shooters heaven.. I had about a 3000 round lag.. but knew that once I adapted/learned..I would never look back.. I was right.. Now.. I shoot mainly Perazzi's now.. because of the trigger..But.. the old K-32 will always have a special place in my heart.. along with my BT-99.. early model..
     
  11. MACH4RANDY

    MACH4RANDY Member

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    I agree with all the pro Perazzi and learning curve comments, BUT, I own about a dozen Brownings and SKB's and i just really can't justify changing my style and make all my other guns, which I also like a great deal, usless. $10 grand sittin in the safe just so I can say I have one, is just not my personality. Thanks for all the help but it is officially going up for sale.
     
  12. Barry C. Roach

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    Don't fall in love with anything that doesn't love you back.
     
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    Randy

    Is your gun a MX2000/8? Because this a fixed rib gun and above you mention the rib is adjustable.

    Thanks

    Joey
     
  14. MACH4RANDY

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    yes mx2000-8 with adj rib and stock. see pic
     
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    Randy,

    How many knotches does the rib have? 3 or 4. I have never seen a MX2000/8 with an adjustable rib. It looks like a MX2000/3 which is a 3 knotch O/U.

    Joey
     
  16. Barry C. Roach

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    Looks like a sporting gun. Are you shooting trap with this gun? Have you sought out help from a local who REALLY knows what he/she is talking about? If not you have not giving the gun an adequate chance.

    Do you have a patterning board available?

    I and a lot of others here could help you. Where do you live?
     
  17. BigM-Perazzi

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    this is the 2000/8..

    <img src="http://www.perazzi.com/Contents/Images/Fucili/1423-perazzi-p120-121-f2.jpg"

    This is the 2000/3

    <img src="http://www.perazzi.com/Contents/Images/Fucili/1423-perazzi-p98-99-f3.jpg"

    Yours does appear to be the 2000/3. That comb appears to have a lot of drop in it, allowing your head to move back and forth maybe? Can you try and get it more parallel with the bore/rib???

    Is this gun new to you? or New? that doesn't look like a factory Perazzi comb...

    Jim
     
  18. PerazziBigBore

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    Barry. you have hit the nail on the head.. But.. there is no reason he could not shoot his top scores with this gun.. if he had someone set it up for him correctly.. Problem here is I don't think he wants to go back to being a student..and learning his firearm..

    Now.. I own and shoot a MX10 31.5" 3 step rib.. It's not much higher than a MX8 step rib.. It's a very easy gun to shoot.. and not alot different than a standard Browning or SKB in rib height..

    All of this goes back to the basics.. and how many years.. and or targets the shooter has actually fired.. I think the longer we shoot.. the easier it is to adapt to a new gun.. The new one.. has to mimic one we shot well.. and sold a few years ago.. Our brain never forgets... we do.. but it doesn't..

    While I have no doubts..a good coach could work wonders with this shooter..and the excellent shotgun he's just purchased.. Good coaches are not easy to find..

    I might also ask.. Where do you live??? Maybe someone here could help.. I live in New Orleans.. All Good.. Mike
     
  19. Barry C. Roach

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    I think that's the latest adjustable comb design for P. I still think it's a sporting model but that's ok. No reason not to make it shoot well for any clay target game. You can make the gun shoot well for you instead of the gun training you. I'm in Southern Illinois in the spring and summer and in AZ in fall and winter.

    Let us know from where you hale and we might be able to hook you up with someone who can help.
     
  20. MACH4RANDY

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    Well let's go with feeling like a total dumb ass! We won't discuss what the new Perazzi dealer told me it was, lets go with what the numbers on the receiver says, and wear my readers! Mx2000/3 and yes it is a sporting model. I feel very stupid, I just wanted a perazzi and was in the Perazzi booth at the sporting clay nationals in San Antonio last yr and this is what I left with.

    I shoot more sporting than I do trap. With that said, I have shot a lot of targets the last 3 hrs and usually adapt to a gun quickly, but not this one. I like guns and shooting not just one type of shooting. A sporting model seems more fitting for all the clay target sports I shoot. My issues are generally quartering and crossing birds.
     
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