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PAT TRAP FIXES IN COLD WEATHER

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by fssberson, Dec 11, 2009.

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  1. fssberson

    fssberson Active Member

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    At the North Hollywood Sportsmans Club we have all Pat Traps and they run well in warm weather, but when the weather drops into the low 50's and below the machines wind mill targets. When the hydraulic fluid heats up the machines return to throwing single targets. We pride ourselves in throwing a top notch target for ATA events, so we need the traps to function flawlessly. ANY SUGGESTIONS FOR HEATING UP THE HYRDAULIC SYSTEMS IN PAT TRAP??? Fred
     
  2. short shucker

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    Milk box heater, an empty target box, and turn on the pump to let it circulate.

    You can also wrap the pump resivoir with pipe warmer tape and just plug it in 1hr prior to throwing targets.

    I don't know about thinning the oil.

    ss
     
  3. washandwear

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    Hi

    There is an adjustment for cold weather wind-milling.

    http://www.pattrap.com/manual/G-Page30-36.pdf

    Regards

    W&W
     
  4. setter

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    fssberson,

    Sent you a PM.

    Jim
     
  5. Auctioneer

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    Use a dog heating pad from the pet store. Put it under the pump unit and set a timer so it cuts on say 1 hour before you shoot and set it so it cuts off say 1 or 2 after you start shooting.
     
  6. maka

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    Pat Traps: Cold weather always a problem. Heaters. heat tapes, and thinner oil all possible fixes. Probablly the best is let the machine pump run for an hour or more. This included with all the previous mentioned fixes. I your in a cold climate,ten degrees or colder,try a piece of insulation board guled to inside of trap door.
     
  7. daddiooo

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    Our club uses a large heating pad wrapped around the hydraulic oil resevoir. We generally have someone plug it in the nite before, or an hour prior to shooting is sufficent.

    Good luck,
    Dave
     
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    Golden West has heating pads that are about the 5x4 size they attach to the reservoir on the pump.
     
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    You call 50 degrees cold. I only wish it was that here in Idaho. Last knight it got down to 18 below zero at my house. I hate it. come on summer.
     
  10. fssberson

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    Thanks every one. I had suggested the heating pad idea with a bungee chord. We do turn them on an hour before, but it just didn't work. We use very thin synthetic oil. Will call Golden West for a fix... only 10 miles away. Fred
     
  11. bill1949

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    Get magnetic engine block heaters, easy, easy off...Bill
     
  12. motordoctor

    motordoctor Shoji Tabuchi in Branson

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    FRED-- 50 degrees"" Right. 22 here today and have to shoot in a tournment tomorrow. Not fun Motordoc
     
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    Motordoc, don't be a wimp!
     
  14. halfmile

    halfmile Well-Known Member

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    We shoot in below zero temps and some god-awful windchills.

    Houses are lined with Dowboard, and milkhouse heaters run by timer.

    In the fall the switch adjustments are made.

    We have no windmilling problems.

    HM
     
  15. RunGunIPSC

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    In Montana,we use a milkhouse heater turned on about an hour before shooting. In very cold weather,we have a plywood piece that covers the trap front with a clearance hole cut into it so that the targets pass thru. This keeps a lot of the heat in the house esp. if there is a headwind. You can design a door with a locked clearance panel so you don't have to drag a piece of plywood out to the house. The key is to keep the warmth inside.
     
  16. maka

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    rungun: great idea! how about some pic'S or diagram.
     
  17. Big Jack

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    We just leave the pump switch at the trap on and use the breaker in the club house to control the circut. First guy to the club turns on the power and lets the pumps run while clearing snow or whatever to open for the day. Usually all that is needed, once the warm oil gets to circulate(first couple of targets) all is well. Don't be afraid to add a heat tape or a heat lamp if that isn't enough.
     
  18. moowho

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    we use portable heaters in our traps over night and run the pumps an hour or so befor we open
     
  19. DTrykow

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    I called Pat-Trap for this fix last year. Starting the pump an hour early works if someone get there. Pat-Trap said to adjust the arm stop as someone suggested up above. That stopped it. It didn't need much movement to cure it.
    We shot in 30deg's yesterday. Not a problem. Dave T.
     
  20. ric3677

    ric3677 Well-Known Member

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    30....wow we would have killed for those temps. Never got above -10 yesterday or today

    Rick in MT
     
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