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P/W Primer Tray

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by Oregunner, Dec 22, 2011.

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  1. Oregunner

    Oregunner Well-Known Member

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    I just got a new to me PW 900 reloader. As I pull the lever I can watch the primer tray flex up and down. It is mounted by a bracket that doesn't look to be designed to accomodate this flexing, and I'm guessing will break eventually, hopefully later than sooner. Is this an issue I need to worry about? Is this the same part as the newer models and will be available in coming years, or should I get a back up now? It looks like I would need to buy a whole new assembly if the brackert breaks. Is there a preventative fix that people have come up with? Thanks, Mark
     
  2. dzneff

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    My first primer tray & feed assembly lasted about 10 years before a spot weld broke. Nothing to worry about.
    Dennis
     
  3. likes-to-shoot

    likes-to-shoot Well-Known Member

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    I just bought a new one but before I bought it I tried JB weld on the crack by the spot welds where the track meets the tray. . By the time I got it to hold the unit was too stiff to work. It's my opinion that its made to flex which in turn helps to get the primers moving down the tray to the track.

    Bill
     
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    320090T Well-Known Member

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    One of mine was born in 1965 and it hasn't broken. If it does, off the the local welding shop it goes, no biggy.
     
  5. Reinz

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    Like Bill says, it is designed that way to keep the flow.
     
  6. JerryP

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    I would wager it wasn't "designed" that way at all, but just a limitation of the design. If "it is designed that way to keep the flow." it is a failure.
     
  7. kiv-c

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    it's supposed to flex to aid in primer feed movement. Add an occasional coat of wax to the tray and the primers will feed great. The waxing eliminates the need for vibrators and other such paraphenalia.
     
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    cubancigar2000 Well-Known Member

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    I love my PW but their primer feed system is the weakest part of the loader. I have never broken one but it sure as hell is a joke to keep working
     
  9. JerryP

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    " The waxing eliminates the need for vibrators and other such paraphenalia."




    Kiv-c, If it's so simple , why didn't Spolar think of that?
     
  10. shot410ga

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    Clean the tray once-in-awhile with alcohol, then put a little graphite on it. Those primer will slide...
     
  11. skeeljc

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    You could replace the primer tray with the new Primer Tray Wave System. The spring that connects the tray is probably more forgiving that the spot welded bracket.

    Jim Skeel<BR>
    P/W Dealer/Distributor
     
  12. paul7177

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    I have the wave system on my Patriot. The spring simply worked poorly! P/W sent me a piece of plastic tubing to use in place of the spring. The plastic tubing works much better, but I still feel that the plastic inserts in the tray could use a redesign.
     
  13. Oregunner

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    At least it sounds like the tray on my 900 is interchangeable with the newer presses, so I'll let it flex away for a while, and replace it if it breaks. Mark
     
  14. whiz white

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    A new tray and track is $45.
     
  15. kiv-c

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    JerryP,
    I've never seen a Spolar, so I know nothing about the type of primer feed it uses. Is it similar to what PW uses? If so, I don't see why something as simple as waxing the tray wouldn't work as well.
     
  16. Reinz

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    Spolar uses the same track system and uses gravity assist to feed along with a vibrator actuated with each pull of the handle or press of the pedal.
     
  17. whiz white

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    I make a vibrator assembly for the P/W machines, usually on request, but I get a couple ahead for inventory.

    I started these as the result of a Minnesota shooting director who was dissatisfied with the noise of the Spolar vibrator. I made one for him and he liked it so well, some of the P/W guys twisted my arm to make them a complete unit.

    My three Spolar's all had the same setup and it worked great, it was just that the intermittent motor vibrators struck a nerve with me. My units are less obtrusive.

    Whiz

    Here's a photo of the Spolar setup. The P/W setup includes the control box, wiring, power supply, and motor mount. I am now making the control boxes in aluminum housings versus the cheaper plastic ones.


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  18. paul7177

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    Whiz,

    Can you post a photo of your P/W tray? Does the vibrator run constantly?

    Thanks,

    Paul
     
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    whiz white Strong Supporter of Trapshooting Banned

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    The control box is of a different and better design now. It has two LED's, one for On, and another for when the motor should be running, and the control box is now of cast aluminum.

    It comes with a full set of instructions, power supply, thumb screws, extra fuses, two replacement Allenhead scres, wire ties; all parts necessary to mount it, etc.

    No, it does not vibrate all the time - that would drive me frickin nuts! That little switch roller drops down as the Rack Gear slides forward, energizing the circuit and the motor vibrates, and when the Rack Gear returns to battery, she stops.

    I need to take some current photos for the instruction sheet. The present full instructions sheet uses the photos above.

    Jim White
     
  20. JerryP

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    The problem has nothing to do with the slipperiness of the tray. If wax was the solution , none of us would have any trouble and Spolar wouldn't have vibrator.
     
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