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  1. wireguy

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    http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/top-stories/science-project-lands-exemplary-student-in-jail.html

    "The principal said the young lady was completely up front and honest about what happened. “She didn’t run or try to hide the truth,” he said.
    Nevertheless, the school district called the police, had her arrested and expelled her from school."
    THIS IS WHAT TOTALITARIANISM LOOKS LIKE - wireguy

    Science Project Lands ‘Exemplary’ Student in Jail

    May 2, 2013

    By Todd Starnes

    A Florida teenager with an “exemplary record” was arrested and expelled from school for what school officials say was a science experiment gone wrong.


    Kiera Wilmot, a student at Bartow High School, is facing two felony charges including making or attempting to make a destructive device after she mixed toilet bowl cleaner and pieces of aluminum foil in a tiny water bottle.

    A spokesperson for the Florida State Attorney’s office told Fox News that the case is under investigation and would not be offering further comment.

    The 16-year-old was in a yard outside the school working on the experiment for an upcomikierawilmotng science project, according to the Bartow Police Dept. The project was not part of an official class assignment.

    Wilmot told police she thought the concoction would result in a little smoke. Instead, according to the police report, the tiny bottle exploded.

    Bartow High School Principal Ron Pritchard told television station WTSP that Wilmot had an exemplary record and she is known around campus as a good student.

    “She’s is a good kid,” the principal said. “she has never been in trouble before. Ever.”

    According to the police report, obtained by Fox News, Wilmot told police she was in no way trying to hurt anyone or create a disruption of school.

    The principal agreed and said she simply made a bad decision.

    “Honestly, I don’t think she meant to ever hurt anyone,” he told the television station. “She wanted to see what would happen when the chemicals mixed and was shocked by what it did. Her mother is shocked, too.”

    The principal said the young lady was completely up front and honest about what happened.

    “She didn’t run or try to hide the truth,” he said.

    Nevertheless, the school district called the police, had her arrested and expelled her from school.

    “There are consequences to actions,” read a statement from Polk County Schools. “Anytime a student makes a bad choice it is disappointing to us.”

    The district told the television station that the incident “was a serious breach of conduct.”

    “In order to maintain a safe and orderly learning environment, we simply must uphold our code of conduct rules,” the statement read. “We will not compromise the safety and security of our students and staff.”

    The experiment was conducted in a school yard away from the building and away from students. No one was injured in the incident.

    The Wilmot family declined to comment. The district said she will complete her education at an alternative school.
     
  2. Bob Schultz

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    Can't fix stupid....
     
  3. timberfaller

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    Now you know one of the reasons Liberals want illegal here, they are always telling us, "we need the best and brightest from other country's" and if we make them come here legally they won't!!!!

    We can't have our own kids become smarter, Liberalism will fail if that happens!!! hence we have the NEA!! to make sure of that!!

    Why do you think there is so MUCH opposition to letting "taxpayers"(vouchers)send their children where THEY want to!!

    Thank God, none of my kids were ever under the indoctrination of any public school!! They also had to STUDY the Constitution before they could Graduate!! "Required" by the School's founders.

    Was it easy to do? no way, but children are their PARENT'S responsibility NOT some lousy government workers.
     
  4. timberfaller

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    Then there is the "buzz word" Offended!!!

    Afraid of offending someone?? Liberals are a Offense!! and they full to many schools with them!!
     
  5. pyrdek

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    Then I think back to my high school chemistry teacher, a Benedictine nun. She taught us about any number of things that might smoke, burn, or, heaven forbid, even explode. She was the one who made chemistry interesting. I still recall today, fifty years after she showed us how and then let us make NI3 (nitrogen tri-iodide)! And to do it with things right from the medicine cabinet!

    Talk about touchy stuff, NI3 is it.

    We also learned about, but did not make, a couple of things involving nitric acid and cellulose. Things like flash paper, and the mysteriously vanishing handkerchief were demonstrated by her.

    If she would be teaching today, they would probably have her arrested and sentenced to Gitmo or even worse. Why, because she committed, by TODAY'S standards, the ultimate crime. She had young minds interested in learning things.
     
  6. g7777777

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    Wireguy- can you really think for yourself? Really?

    So she illegally took these chemicals out of a classroom and then allegedly "by accident" combined them and it created an explosion-- is that it?

    And she didnt try to run and hide-- kind of hard to do that isnt with the stuff all over you and the explosion and you are standing there ?

    Duh--disciplining her was a no brainer

    How do you think other parents would feel about their kids accidently getting killed by this person that stole chemicals and made a bomb?

    Regards from Iowa

    Gene
     
  7. timberfaller

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    "She had young minds interested in learning things."


    Just about every "kid" has that built in, The scum who are allowed to teach without question, DO their level best to knock it out of them!!!

    Its called PC, Fairness, Don't offend anyone!!
     
  8. g7777777

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    So timberfallen- do you have a college degree in education?

    Have you ever taught?

    "Fairness" according to you is allowing kids to build bombs in school

    Really?

    Regards from Iowa

    Gene
     
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    Many of these situations were created by the federal legislature in the nineties when they passed a law stating that states must pass "zero tolerance" standards on "guns and/or explosives on school property" or their schools would lose all federal funding. All fifty states capitulated. As a result, many districts were forced to pass "zero tolerance" policies which take all consideration out of the hands of the educators themselves. Most often the teachers and administrators agree that the situation should not exist, but their hands are tied.

    However, it is far easier just to blame the liberals in public education, especially if you don't know what you are talking about.

    By the way, I DO have a Master's degree in education, spent thirty years as a public school classroom teacher and high school administrator, I am a gun owner, a trap shooter, a conservative...and I am not scum! Martinpicker (Jack Farrow)
     
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    Martinpicker- well so you avoided the topic of bomb building -- but I know it isnt your position but it is Timberfallens and wire guy

    Wireguy---Timberfallens?

    You find it ok for a kid to steal chemicals- build a bomb and it blows up?

    Is that your postion?

    Or is your position that you can steal chemicals, build a bomb and it blows up and you get one pass?

    That is your position? you get one pass for building a bomb with chemicals you stole from the school?

    Is that your position?

    Would it matter if someone were hurt?

    What would you tell the parents of the other kids?

    So exactly what is your position?

    Wireguy and timberfallen--- did you not get along in school? is that what you want others to do- is understand you?

    Regards from Iowa

    Gene
     
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    It wasn't long ago here in Florida that the devise the young student made was in the news. There was an unidentified group making the same mixture and leaving then in peoples yards. Seems the explosion only happens after the chemicials have sat awhile and then are disturbed. There were many warnings to the public to be on the alert for such things. Did this young student know of this? Was the punishment too extreem? Sometimes good folks make bad decisions. Hopefully this youngester has learned a valuable lesson, as well as some of her peers. Jake
     
  12. Bisi

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    "There are consequences to actions"read a statement from Polk County Schools.

    Unless of course you are an illegal. Then you can come in help yourself to all the free lunches and education and nothing will be done, except to tell em to be sure to vote Democrat.
     
  13. timberfaller

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    Gene in Regards Iowa,

    Did you even read the article?

    "So she illegally took these chemicals out of a classroom and then allegedly "by accident" combined them and it created an explosion-- is that it?"

    I went back and re-read the story, did they remove that statement about stealing/illegally took??

    Ah yes I've been to college, and yes I "teach"!

    Certified 4H indoor air rifle/pistol instructor, 20+ years Hunter Ed and Firearm instructor.

    Bring a chainsaw and I'll give you a lesson that can't be taught in ANY School!!

    As for College Degrees, from what I've seen of holders of such papers, Highly over rated at best!
     
  14. g7777777

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    So maybe you and wireguy should respect teachers and also respect of others rights to safety

    Buidling bombs in school, and yes she did take the chemicals out of the classroom without permission- that is stealing, is not an acceptable practice.

    Despite that fact that kids might do things at time, building a bomb isnt one that can be tolerated.

    Then to label educators that kicked her out as imbeciles and then to group edjucators in that category is without justification or reason plus disrepects a group as a whole that are not only to be respected for what they do but often what they have to be forced to deal with-- kids that come from homes that Wireguy represents. Just that language or attitude towards teachers in your home starts a path of failure in children. Just as toleration of activities such as bomb building, creates situations such as we saw in Boston

    Wireguy is another poster child for the anti gun momvement and any one in edjuaction or that knows someone in edjucation and that votes that reads Wireguy posts will vote against what wireguy claims to stand for.

    Everything that an educator does is wrong to wireguy. He seems to have had huge problems getting along.

    Why would he post this ?

    Regards from Iowa

    Gene
     
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    Gene,,,,,you need to get some mental help,,,,,you are sounding even more looney,,,,,,,,do you even see what is happening????they are not educators,,,,,,,,they are indoctrinators............
     
  16. g7777777

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    Big Dog-- maybe talking to your doctor about this stuff might be helpful

    Ok so they are indoctrinating that there is a penalty for stealing chemicals and building bombs? Ok -- So?

    Regards from Iowa

    Gene
     
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    Typical reaction from the liberal dirt bags. This kid wasn't trying to build a BOMB! Only a liberal lefist MORON would think so!She tried and experiment as many kids do and wasn't aware of the dangers of common chemicals! Wish the low life liberal socialist would get off this site,but, just like the rest of life, liberals (like flies and fire ants) are just a part life and you can't get rid of them! Liberals think because they have a degree in something and were "educated" under a leftist college prof. they have superior minds and are God's "gift" to humanity!! Liberals are the scum of the earth!
     
  18. bigdogtx

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    Gene,,,,,to quote you, "Can you think for yourself?"
     
  19. Big Al 29

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    I'm a teacher. I'm not an idiot. I'm not a Liberal. I'm not a Democrat.

    I am known as the "Gun nut" of my school and I take offense to this but on more than one account I have been told if and when shit hits the fan, i am the one they are calling. I have talked about how we would handle a situation if it arose. Our school has DONE NOTHING a far as a lock down or school invasion drill. All 5 of my classes have though. We have no police, no security, no nothing WE have a buzzer but the doors are glass and can easily be broken. We had a fire alarm go off in the kitchen and we cleared the school. When the cops showed up they couldn't get into the building. I walked over and asked the cop how I can help and he said "Can you let me in the building?". I used my card to get him in and said.... "You guys don;t have access cards? what if the shit hit the fan? and he replied... Good question!"

    I suggested arming a few of us teachers that have training (My classroom is 10 feet from the main door), I have suggested hiring the part time cops as none are full timers here in my area, I have suggested retired vets. I got... "It would scare the kids and... we don't want to over-blow the situation... it would never happen here plus we don't have the money." I told them I am saving the emails so if and when something bad happens I will have those ridiculous statements to share with anyone who asks.

    but...

    Sounds like the Super and the SB are the idiots in this case.

    Many teachers that hate the kids or are horrible teachers move on to administration and ultimately central administration so it takes them even further away from the kids.

    Some people that hated their time in High School become SB members to "give it to them".

    Bottom line is there is Due Process hearing before anyone can be expelled from school and there usually has to have a "malicious intent" piece that warrants the expulsion.

    An accident doesn't warrant expulsion. That's what I would be arguing if defending the student.
     
  20. timberfaller

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    Typical problem of our society, Guilty and can't be Innocent! Liberals can't bring themselves to thinking that "accidents" happen.

    Buc,

    You just gave WHY, here and other forums, unions are dislike so much! Instead of firing the worthless bums they get promoted into "upper Management".

    gene from regard Iowa, has a disability, called "reading comprehension" and as a liberal YOUR guilty and just Try and say your innocent. Have had the mis-fortune of being around individuals like that to many times.
     
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