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OT Something to Contemplate!!

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  1. FarmerD

    FarmerD TS Member

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    John McCain's remarks about the Pledge of Allegiance!

    In light of the recent appeals court ruling in California , with respect to
    the Pledge of Allegiance, the following recollection from Senator John
    McCain is very appropriate:

    "The Pledge of Allegiance" - by Senator John McCain


    As you may know, I spent five and one half years as a prisoner of war during
    the Vietnam War. In the early years of our imprisonment, the NVA kept us in
    solitary confinement two or three to a cell. In 1971 the NVA moved us from
    these conditions of isolation into large rooms with as many as 30 to 40 men
    to a room.

    This was, as you can imagine, a wonderful change and was a direct result of
    the efforts of millions of Americans on behalf of a few hundred POW's 10,000
    miles from home.

    One of the men who moved into my room was a young man named Mike Christian.

    Mike came from a small town near Selma , Alabama He didn't wear a pair of
    shoes until he was 13 years old. At 17, he enlisted in the US Navy. He later
    earned a commission by going to Officer Training School Then he became a
    Naval Flight Officer and was shot down and captured in 1967. Mike had a keen
    and deep appreciation of the opportunities this country and our military
    provide for people who want to work and want to succeed.

    As part
    Of the change in treatment, the Vietnamese allowed some prison ers to receive
    packages from home. In some of these packages were handkerchiefs, scarves
    and other items of clothing.

    Mike got himself a bamboo needle. Over a period of a couple of months, he
    created an American flag and sewed on the inside of his shirt.

    Every afternoon, before we had a bowl of soup, we would hang Mike's shirt on
    the wall of the cell and say the Pledge of Allegiance.

    I know the Pledge of Allegiance may not seem the most important part of our
    day now, but I can assure you that in that stark cell it was indeed the most
    important and meaningful event.

    One day the Vietnamese searched our cell, as they did periodically, and
    discovered Mike's shirt with the flag sewn inside, and removed it.

    That evening they returned, opened the door
    Of the cell, and for the benefit of all of us, beat Mike Christian severely
    for the next couple of hours Then, they opened the door of the cell and
    threw him in. We cleaned him up as well as we could.

    The cell in which we lived had a concrete slab in the middle on which we
    slept. Four naked light bulbs hung in each corner of the room.

    As I said, we tried to clean up Mike as well as we could. After the
    excitement died down, I looked in the corner of the room, and sitting there
    beneath that dim light bulb with a piece of red cloth, another shirt and his
    bamboo needle, was my friend, Mike Christian. He was sitting there with his
    eyes almost shut from the beating he had received, making another American
    flag. He was not making the flag because it made Mike Christian feel better.
    He was making that flag because he knew how important it was to us to be
    able to Pledge our allegiance to our flag and country.

    So the next time you say the Pledge of
    Allegiance, you must never forget the sacrifice and courage that thousands
    of Americans have made to build our nation and promote freedom ar ound the
    world.

    You must remember our duty, our honor, and our country.

    "I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the
    republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with
    liberty and justice for all."
     
  2. FarmerD

    FarmerD TS Member

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    I don't know where you got that information Gary, I wouldn't vote for him if he was the only canidate running. John McCain is my man. You must have me mixed up with lumpy or hipshot, heaven forbid. Ben PS. Damn few Marine's would vote for The Witch Hillary, or the POS Usama Obama. Just my humble opinion.
     
  3. Jeff P

    Jeff P Well-Known Member

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    As I told a phone pollster the other night:

    If I was in the voting booth and you had a gun to my head and told me to vote democrat or you'd shoot me, I'd punch the Republican button and tell you to pull the trigger.

    Pretty simple, really.
     
  4. cdconley

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    Nobody doubts McCain’s patriotism, he is a true American hero. Unfortunately, his plan to grant amnesty to 10 of the 12mil illegal aliens is simply unacceptable. This along with other liberal viewpoints that he holds is why I cannot support him in the primaries.
     
  5. superxjeff

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    It is once again shaping up to be another best of a bad lot election. I am jelous of the older shooters who have had good choices to pick from on either side of the asile. I am 39 years old and since I have been 18 I have voted. The choice has seldom been a tough one and that is sad. My dad and Mom were mostly democrat but they often voted outside of their party depending on the candidate. I wish we had such a good choice of candiates that it was an option for me as it was for them on so many occasions. Jeff
     
  6. Bawana

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    He is also in my opinion a Dem in Rep cloths. He is anti gun and has gone to other states to push his anti gun ideas. I also did not like the way he acted when he lost to Bush in 2000. I respect him and thank him for what he did in Nam but that was then and this is now.
     
  7. Onceabum

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    Amen, Trader.
     
  8. Hipshot 3

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    Farmer.....Good post, but please don't use them big words on us! "Contemplate" ?.......why not just say "Think about"? Nobody knows what kind of plate that is! OK?
     
  9. cdconley

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    FarmerD,

    I was hoping that you could clear something up. You said "John McCain is my man". So does that mean that you support granting amnesty to 10,000,000 of the 12,000,000 illegal aliens that are here sucking our economy dry? McCain has made it very clear that he intends on working towards that goal. McCain is from my state and at every turn he has been a pro-illegal alien politician. In fact he’s even been left of our liberal governor on immigration issues and she’s farther left then 90% her democratic party. I don’t know what motivates McCain on this issue. I can only speculate that he has some obligation to one of many southwest area border businesses or groups that are pushing for this. Personally I can’t understand how a Republican can continue to push for amnesty when over 80% of all Americans and at least 99% of registered republicans don’t want it.
     
  10. FarmerD

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    Not my chob hombre. I just Izquierda in my Chebe. FD
     
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