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OT - Here's a new wrinkle

Discussion in 'Uncategorized Threads' started by halfmile, Oct 27, 2007.

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  1. halfmile

    halfmile Well-Known Member

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    Email today disgorged this one:

    WHAT WILL THEY THINK OF NEXT?

    Sacramento County Sheriff's Department

    Here is info worth the price of your car.... Seems that car thieves have found yet another way to steal your car or truck without any effort at all... The car thieves peer through the windshield of your car or truck, write down the VIN # from the label on the dash, go to the local car dealership and request a duplicate key based on the VIN #. My friend didn't believe this, so she called Chrysler-Dodge and pretended she had lost her keys. They told her to just bring in the VIN #, and they would cut her one on the spot, and she could order the keyless device if she wanted. The Car Dealer's Parts Department will make a duplicate key from the VIN #, and collect payment from the thief who will return to your car. He doesn't have to break in, do any damage to the vehicle, or draw attention to himself. All he has to do is walk up to your car, insert the key and off he goes to a local Chop Shop with your vehicle. You don't believe it? It IS that easy.

    To avoid this from happening to you, simply put some tape (Electrical tape, duct tape or medical tape) across the VIN Metal Label located on the dash board. By law, you cannot remove the VIN, but you can cover it so it can't be viewed through the windshield by a car thief. I urge you to forward this to your friends before some other car thief steals another car or truck. I slipped a 3 x 5 card over the VIN NUMBER. This can also be done when you have parked your car for the day at a shopping mall, hospital, or work place parking lot!
    Cindy Burdette
    Crime Prevention Specialist
    Sacramento Sheriff's Department
    North Central Division

    Sheesh..it's cold out tonight but I'm going outside to cover the plate.

    HM
     
  2. recurvyarcher

    recurvyarcher Well-Known Member

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    Probably how my GPS got stolen while I was gone to Italy for 2 weeks. The truck was still locked, but everything from the glove box and center console was on the floor and all over the seats.
     
  3. setter

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    Interesting read on Snopes regarding this topic.
     
  4. halfmile

    halfmile Well-Known Member

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    I would be willing to bet I could walk in and get a key at almost any dealership in our area. In fact, I have but not with the vin number. I had the punch out years ago before smart keys, and they cut me a new one on the spot.

    Snopes seems to be grudgingly admitting the possibility of this one.

    HM
     
  5. trim tab

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    This would never happen at my dealerships. We had a strick policy in place on cutting keys. Dealerships need touse their heads.
     
  6. bcnu

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    You would not get a new key cut at the dealership that I work at unless you have the paperwork that goes to the car and ID that matches the paperwork. John
     
  7. bill1269

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    I know first hand that this works.I lost the keys to my chevy dump truck while at work one day.Called the local GM dealer and they told me no problem bring the VIN down to them and they would take care of it.Went down to the dealership and ten minute's had new key's.Didn't even ask for ID.
     
  8. BDodd

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    I read the snopes remarks. They say the covering of your VIN at the dash is a false item; that it wouldn't stop a thief and yet through all their remarks I couldn't see an explanation of that. If a guy really wants your vehicle, he'll find a way to steal it, sure but tossing an envelope or business card over the VIN seems like a good method to avoid the thief wandering around in parking lots. Cover the VIN completely reliable? No, but better than leaving it open to the casual observer. BTW, this internet warning is far from new; it was a common warning and suggestion (to cover the VIN) since at least the mid 80s.....breakemall....Bob Dodd
     
  9. kenf

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    Most newer vehicles that can do this require the vehicle to program the chip in the key to match the vehicles computer. Although, it still wouldn't stop someone from getting in the vehicle to remove expensive equipment (i.e. guns at a shoot).
     
  10. W.P.T.

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    Most thieves have universal keys to get into your vehicle, its called a brick and fits all cars, trucks, and vans ... The window darkening films slow them down a bit but seldom stops them if they want in bad enough ... WPT ... (YAC) ...
     
  11. Hipshot 3

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    This isn't really a new wrinkle. It was discussed here some time ago, but the point is well-taken. Tape over the bloody thing.....makes it harder for Lumper to get your car!
     
  12. Dave P

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    Wasn't it just a few years ago that the dealers were selling the idea of having the serial number etched on each window as a saftey measure?
     
  13. break25

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    When I worked for a GM dealership here in NY, you had to bring in your Cars Registration to check ownership before we would cut a key.

    Also, covering the dash VIN in NY doesn't work as the the NY Registration Sticker that MUST be stuck to the windshield has the Make model year and VIN.

    If a thief wants your car, no mater what ever means you take to prevent theft, he WILL take it.

    We have had cars Stolen right off the driveways without alarms going off.

    LOL


    CHAZZ
     
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    I must have a good dealer. My wife locked her keys in her car. She and I were in town about 40miles from home. I thought that going to the dealer would be faster then calling a locksmith to open the car. Unfortunately I was unable to get key cut, because the Ford Store in this town will not cut a key unless you have a registration or title with your name and the vin on it. So you might find some dealers that will do this but the one I went to will not. BTW, they know me personally, I have purchased 11 vehicles from them.
     
  16. cdconley

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    Another wrinkle for you. If your car is a 99 or newer the key more then likely has a microchip in the end of it. If the dealer was stupid enough to cut a key without verifying ownership all you would be able to do is open the door, the car will not start until the key is programmed to the car. In order to do this both the car and the key must be at the dealership. My son lost both keys and clickers to one of our trucks and we had to have the car towed in for them to program new keys.
     
  17. smsnyder

    smsnyder Well-Known Member

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    i am a car dealer and cannot get keys without a title or owners card. If anyone gives out keys based on just a vin number they got problems.
     
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