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  1. jnoemanh

    jnoemanh TS Member

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    23. You have to believe that we invaded Iraq because Saddam had WMD, or failing that...we invaded Iraq because Saddam had nukes, or failing that...we invaded because Irazqis would strew our path with flowers, or failing that...we invaded because Iraqis want democracy, or failing that...whatever Bush's latest lie is.

    24. You have to believe that Scooter Libby deserved clemency, but two border patrol agents deserve prison.

    25. You have to believe that your nose belongs in the uterus of women you don't know because they shouldn't control their own lives.

    26. You have to believe that George Bush served his country honorably, but John McCain and Jim Webb are cowards.

    27. You have to believe that a multi-trillion dollar deficit is responsible government.

    28. You have to believe that the POTUS should never attend one single military funeral.
     
  2. waterhouselake

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    29. You have to believe that the deficits are one partys fault because no member of the opposition party voted yes on any appropriation bill.
     
  3. tgun90

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    The Repub;s have had absolute control for near eight years and this is what we got , case closed.
     
  4. The Rock

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    jnoemanh

    He does sort of look like a democrap when you put it that way.
     
  5. blizzard

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    tgun,


    it will probably take even longer yet to clean up what clinton wouldn't handle.
     
  6. revsublime

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    ..and what bush exacerbated. Yup...will take decades to clean it up. Not to mention stopping what caused the problem in the first place. Not sure that will ever happen.
     
  7. grnberetcj

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    Same parallels as Unions!

    Curt
     
  8. XTFreak

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    It's really much simpler ....

    Conservatism = FREEDOM and PROSPERITY
    Liberalism = TYRANNY and OPPRESSION

    Conservatism (Capitalism) has worked EVERY TIME it was tried in recorded history.

    Liberalism (Socialism) has never worked in recorded history... PERIOD.

    You can prove these two statements with true, recorded facts.

    People need to take the time to read their history and quit getting their "facts" from CNN or their union business reps or the drunk on the barstool.
     
  9. birdogs

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    To Tron and Co,

    Were you there on 9/11? How many friends did you lose on that day? I can say "yes" to both. Maybe that wouldn't have happened if Clinton had taken Bin Laden when he was offered to him.

    Let's talk about the Dem's foreign excursions. What did the Serbs do to us? Why are we still in Kosovo? Or in the Balkans? What US interests are we protecting?

    Get your heads out of your a%%. The liberals (read Dems) are invested in defeat in Iraq and are simply the "party of opposition". That is, they oppose anything the Republicans are doing without being for anything themselves.

    Vote them in again in 2008 and then piss and moan about increased taxes. the economic slowdown, unemployment and all the other negatives that are sure to follow. Also, be assured that they will reduce our military preparedness as they always do so that we will not be able to respond to ant foreign threats such as the resurgence of Russian agression and the growing threat from China.

    Tony C
     
  10. Tripod

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    Bingo Tony
     
  11. blizzard

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    tony, i'll buy you a beer anytime. after we're done shooting, of course.
     
  12. lightfoot

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    I generally vote Democratic, but I don't meet most of these guidelines. Are you sure they're not Republican guidelines?
     
  13. revsublime

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    Clinton couldnt have taken bin Laden without possible taking out a Saudi Prince.

    we were in serbia to stop ethnic cleansing.

    as to dems being invested in the defeat of iraq...well, not sure i can argue with that. I would just add that I dont think the Republicans were ever invested in victory in Iraq. no profit in quick victory, which may explain Rumsfelds idiotic handling of the war.

    re: military preparedness...hmm...I think it was again, Rummie, who wanted a lean, quick, fighting force. Outsourced much of it to private contractors and spread our military so thin as to not be able to take on anything of importance.

    vote for either repub's or dem's and further see your money wasted, your liberties taken, and a big plate of the same ol' crap we've been eating for half a century. Partisanship at the cost of Liberty.
     
  14. Gargoyle!

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    If you want to be a good Dem then you have to know how to put on whiskers, a long hairless tail and know where to poke your nose where it is not needed.
     
  15. blizzard

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    "Clinton couldnt have taken bin Laden without possible taking out a Saudi Prince."-rev



    should of done it anyway! any anal orafice that was sharing air with bin was fair game! DUH!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  16. revsublime

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    Blizzard...tell that to Bush as he holds hand with the very same.
     
  17. blizzard

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    i'm sure rev. whatever you say. GENERALLY speaking.
     
  18. revsublime

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    yup...whatever I say...or Bush does. either way.
     
  19. stokinpls

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    Yes'm, things is jest AWFUL!

    AP
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    Saturday August 25, 6:02 am ET
    By Matt Gouras, Associated Press Writer
    Record Low Unemployment in West Creates Tough Working Conditions for Business Owners

    HELENA, Mont. (AP) -- The owner of a fast food joint in Montana's booming oil patch found himself outsourcing the drive-thru window to a Texas telemarketing firm, not because it's cheaper but because he can't find workers.
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    Record low unemployment across parts of the West has created tough working conditions for business owners, who in places are being forced to boost wages or be creative to fill their jobs.

    John Francis, who owns the McDonald's in Sidney, Mont., said he tried advertising in the local newspaper and even offered up to $10 an hour to compete with higher-paying oil field jobs. Yet the only calls were from other business owners upset they would have to raise wages, too. Of course, Francis' current employees also wanted a pay hike.

    "I don't know what the answer is," Francis said. "There's just nobody around that wants to work."

    Unemployment rates have been as low as 2 percent this year in places like Montana, and nearly as low in neighboring states. Economists cite such factors as an aging work force and booming tourism economies for the tight labor market.

    For places like Montana, it has been a steady climb in the nearly two decades since the timber and mining industry recession. The state approached double-digit unemployment levels in the 1980s and began the slow crawl back in the early 1990s.

    "This is actually the biggest economic story of our time, and we don't quite grasp it because it is 15 years in the making," said economist Larry Swanson, director of the O'Connor Center for the Rocky Mountain West at the University of Montana.

    The U.S. Department of Labor reports the mountain West region -- covering eight states along the Rocky Mountains -- has the lowest overall unemployment rate in the nation. The region hit an all-time low of 3.4 percent in May.

    The effects are everywhere. Logging equipment in Idaho sits idle as companies have a tough time finding workers. A shortage of lifeguards has forced Helena to shorten hours at children-only pools. A local paper in Jackson, Wyo., has page after page of help wanted ads.

    In Jackson Hole, the Four Seasons Resort still had openings in late July. The problem has created longer hours and tougher working conditions for current employees.

    For years, the resort has imported dozens of workers from Eastern Europe who often come as much for the summer recreation opportunity as the money. This year, however, that wasn't enough and so for the first time the resort also sent recruiters to a high school job fair, said spokeswoman Greer Terry. It only helped a little.

    "It's been a struggle finding employees this summer," Terry said.

    Economists say there are a number of reasons why parts of the West are feeling the labor pinch.

    Established baby boomers, including retirees, have been moving into Montana for the mountain views and recreation, bringing with them money for new homes that fuel construction job growth, said Swanson.

    Along the way, younger people have moved away searching for bigger paychecks as the state's wages still lag behind other areas and are slowly increasing overall. Now, the aging work force is unable to expand to meet the demands of the job market, Swanson said.

    He said the problem is compounded by the fact that employers, accustomed to paying relatively low wages, have been slow to increase salaries. Montana wages have historically been among the lowest in the country, and still rank near the bottom. The silver lining for workers is that wages are now growing at the third-fastest rate among U.S. states.

    Now, workers with more options in some places are unwilling to take $12-an-hour jobs.

    The problem could get worse as more baby boomers retire, Swanson said. By 2030, Montana and Wyoming are predicted to have among the oldest populations in the U.S, with about 26 percent of residents 65 and older, Swanson said. That compares to 19.7 percent predicted nationally.

    "We thought the labor force crunch wouldn't come until 2012, but it's already arrived in a lot of these fast-growth areas," Swanson said. As a result, "you'll find older workers working longer, people will sort of linger in the work force. The employers will make it worth their time to."

    Swanson added the phenomenon of quasi-retirement with older workers cutting back on hours but still heading to the office will grow, while international workers will be drawn to the region. Younger workers who used to leave will find it worth their while to stay.

    "The squeeze is on. You get into these 2 percent and less unemployment rates and you're moving into a seller's market with the seller being the worker," Swanson said.

    Officials worry the razor thin labor market could bind economic growth, although there has been no indication of that yet.

    "One of the reasons we are seeing the lower (unemployment) rates is we are starting to see more investment in our economy. It's like finding an undervalued stock," said Tyler Turner, Montana's economic development chief.

    In Helena, the pool of applicants has been shrinking even for jobs on the police force. For professional jobs, such as department managers, the city is considering hiring slightly underqualified people that can be trained on the job.

    "This is the tightest market I have ever seen," said Salty Payne, who has worked in the Helena City human resource office for 15 years.

    Payne in part blames the area's building boom, which is drawing workers to construction trades that are offering higher salaries.

    Montana state lawmaker Art Noonan lives in the mining town of Butte -- the epicenter of a big mining bust 20 years ago. Now, more people are moving in to build second homes and high paying jobs are coming back as copper prices go up.

    "All of these things are sort of clicking at the same time," Noonan said. "The only economic development we used to get was the creation of more economic development offices."

    In Utah -- where unemployment rates have been hovering around 2.5 percent -- amusement parks, trucking companies, telemarketing firms and others have been paying bonuses of hundreds of dollars or more to find workers.

    "It boils down to the attractiveness of the (interior) West," said Mark Knold, chief economist at the Utah Department of Workforce Services. "It is a population magnet."

    And workers have benefited. Utah workers saw a 5.4 percent average wage increase in 2006, Knold said.

    But questions remain about how long the West can weather the problems that come with low unemployment.

    "The hardest thing is to keep the economy growing at a strong rate when you have a low unemployment rate," he said. "Take a company that wants to expand. Where is the next worker going to come from?"
     
  20. stokinpls

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    But they could be worse.

    1) " We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.

    (2) "It's time for a new beginning, for an end to government of the few, by the few, and for the few...... And to replace it with shared responsibility for shared prosperity."

    (3) "(We) ....can't just let business as usual go on, and that means something has to be taken away from some people."

    (4) "We have to build a political consensus and that requires people to give up a little bit of their own turf in order to create this common ground."

    (5) "I certainly think the free-market has failed."

    (6) "I think it's time to send a clear message to what has become the most profitable sector in (the) entire economy that they are being watched."

    Now you might think these were the famous words of the Father of communism, Karl Marx........

    ....and you would be on the right track in thinking so.....but you would be wrong......

    These pearls of socialist/Marxist wisdom are from non other than our very own, home-grown Marxist.........


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