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OT: Does The Popular Vote Really Count?

Discussion in 'Uncategorized Threads' started by GP40X, Oct 23, 2008.

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  1. GP40X

    GP40X TS Member

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    After hearing and reading that the projected Electoral vote (before the actual date of voting) has Obama leading McCain 200 to 58, I can't help but wonder if the election is a foregone conclusion, and my vote don't really count. I'll vote anyway, because I still think that I have a say (how naive of me), but I can't help but wonder if it's really worth the effort. Any opinions?

    LF
     
  2. trapshootin hippie

    trapshootin hippie Well-Known Member

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    LF, I have made the prediction all along, that this will be the year that the electoral vote and the popuar vote aren't in sync. Has never before been done, but it is possible, and who knows what might happen this year. Time will tell....


    Gne J
     
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    Don't let these liberal polls frustrate you from voting. There intent is to discourge you with the numbers.

    Winning the popular vote does not determine the overall winner. The Electoral College vote determines the winner and it has happened when the popular vote winner did not get enough electoral votes thus they lost the election.

    The way this election is shaping up, we could have an electoral college tie of 269. Therefore, the House of Representatives will determine the Presidency and the Senate would determine the Vice President.

    Picture this, the democrats control the House, therefore obama would be President. The Senate is not controlled by either party because of two Independents. Thus again there would be a tie in the Senate and VP Dick Cheney would be the tie breaker, thus Sarah Palin would be the Vice President.

    Wow!! GO McCain/Palin
     
  4. ou.3200

    ou.3200 Well-Known Member

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    The popular vote in each state counts and, as said above, determines who gets the electorial votes of that state. Overall popular vote doesn't mean anything in electing the President. The official overall count in 2000 has Gore with more popular votes but I don't think it is really known because many states didn't complete the count of absentee ballots when the number involved were not sufficient to change the outcome. The Democrats don't like the electorial vote system because in many of the larger states they have large cities where the residents vote overwhelmingly for Democrats and that could overpower some of the smaller states that vote Republican. It came into being precisely to prevent smaller states from being overpowered and should continue in perpetuity.

    Be sure to vote and don't let the polls, news media and Democrats talk you out of it by claiming all is lost.
     
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    <i>"Don't let these liberal polls frustrate you from voting. There intent is to discourge you with the numbers."</i>

    I couldn't agree more...

    "Does the popular vote really count?" No, it doesn't. cls
     
  6. AAA 27 AAA

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    You have to win the popular vote of the State, thus the candidate collects all electoral votes in that state. Yes, Al Gore did win the popular vote but not the electoral vote.

    Our framers of the Constitution new this would happen. That's why they put it in the Constitution so that one state could not dominate the United States; every state has a voice. The democrats want to change this. I wonder how obama got nominated by the dems? I wonder why they want to change the Consitition? I wonder why they want our country to convert to socialism?
     
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    Always vote. Never know when your vote will make the diffeence for your states electorial votes. Us McCain/Palin supporters really have to make sure we get our votes counted. Just never know until it's over. Myself, I'm hoping Obama gets disquailified. Besides I already voted.
     
  8. spitter

    spitter Well-Known Member TS Supporters

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    If memory serves me right, Rutherford Hayes was the first President to win by electoral vote, losing in the popular vote...

    Jay
     
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    The Libs are pressing hard to do away with the electoral vote after Gore was beaten. Thankfully it's a long drawn-out process to change the Constitution, and 3/4 of the states would have to vote for it.

    Being that most of the conservative states fall in the Heartland of the US, those states out number the coastal fringe.
     
  10. spritc

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    Yes, Yes and Yes!
     
  11. birdogs

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    It is the popular vote which elects the "Electors" from each State. They elect the President. Of course it counts!
     
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    timb99 Well-Known Member

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    If I recall correctly, the "Electors" are not mandated to vote with the popular vote in the State. They always do as a matter of course, but they don't have to.

    Vote anyway.
     
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