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opening choke to gain a rock?

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  1. acss

    acss Well-Known Member Supporting Vendor

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    need opinions ( or facts)- will a better trap score occur by openning your choke -say from full(.38) to mod (.20-.22) at the 16 yd line or back ??
     
  2. crusha

    crusha TS Member

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    Here we go again.

    One word of advice...the person who says, "I'd rather have 100 chips than 99 smokes"...probably doesn't get much of either, because the choice seldom presents itself in those kind of neat, tidy terms.
     
  3. Bob Hawkes

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    Depends where you point It!
     
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    All your breaks will be big pieces. You will not be able to tell if you are high or low, etc.

    Best to choke for smoke. That way if you're off a little you can adjust. Also more fun that way.

    HM
     
  5. DTrykow

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    I've been the youngest trap shooter at my club for years. The old timers have stated many theories regarding trap, most of which don't work. One of them is practice with the tighest choke ya got then open it up for competition. Same same for me. I don't do it. They also state to swing as fast as you can during practice. Anyway. Dave T.
     
  6. acss

    acss Well-Known Member Supporting Vendor

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    dave-thanks for your input- BUT- what's the skinny on open chokes from your young point of view? - do you have a gain in score?????
     
  7. Jawhawker

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    Open chokes up close will make you sloppy.. You will pay big dues when backing up in handicap and it won't be positive ones.....
     
  8. midalake

    midalake Well-Known Member

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    Choke for smoke.......period.........


    GS
     
  9. shot410ga

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    Most shooters over choke. Pattern the gun at the distance you break the target. There is no other way to determine what works best. It's time consuming but it's the only way to see what choke is best for your load and gun. The old saying "choke for smoke" is just that, old. With the new guns, moble chokes, wads, and trick barrels you best find out on a pattern board.
     
  10. Beretta687EELL

    Beretta687EELL Well-Known Member

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    I shoot a modified (.020) choke for 16 yards in a .750 bore Kolar. I shoot fast and get lots of smoke. In my old Beretta the Light Full choke worked best. Try different chokes with your ammunition at different yardages and use the one that will give you the kind of breaks you want to consistently see. Bill Malcolm
     
  11. hmb

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    On station #3 you should use a modified choke, on stations #2 & #4 you should use an improved modified choke, and on stations #1 ans #5 you should use a full choke. That's why they make screw in chokes. Always use the right choke and your scores will improve. HMB
     
  12. oldgahchamp

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    HMB, Do you use that theory for practice or competition? I am sure you were just joking. Weren't you? Larry
     
  13. miketmx

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    I believe the information shown at the website above. Studies by Dr. Jones and others have shown that a "more open" choke has a weaker core pattern without transferring the extra pellets to the outer fringe. I have choke tubes and I use IM for singles and Full for Handicap. If I had a fixed choke gun, I would definitely have it choked Full for Handicap. I learned this lesson many years ago when I had several BT-99's. I found through trial and error that my highest averages in Singles were shot with the Full Choked BT-99.
     
  14. Hatshooter

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    working with a couple of SCTP teams, I encourged the shooters to tighten their chokes to "read " the breaks. Both teams reported a 20 to 25 % increase in broken targets from a mod choke to tighter chokes. my .02 anyway.
     
  15. trident

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    Just had the Alf opened to .027, will try it our tonight. Andy
     
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    The above post is direct from the big guy himself.

    If he says full choke, then full choke it is.
     
  17. dverna

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    Do you shoot fast, or ride the bird out to 40 yards?

    Are you shooting Lawrys, Federals or Whiteflyers?

    Does the bird present flat or tilted?

    Shooting at 25ºF or at 90ºF.

    Do you know how your gun patterns?

    Yep, it can drive you nuts.

    Start with a LM or M. KISS. When you start shooting decent scores (23's, 24's) experiment with chokes and see what works best for you. Keep a notebook. Record ALL your scores and conditions shot in. That 98 may be a fluke. Shoot a minimum of 500 rounds before deciding if your performance is better/worse.

    If in doubt, go tighter rather than more open.

    Don Verna (97.8 last 1000 ATA singles targets)
     
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    I truly believe the "choke mindset" that many shooters have today harms their shooting performance, rather than help it. If you shoot a modified choke and have success; my advice is "go for it". You have confidence in that combination. A number of years ago, I shot the Florida state shoot. I shot next to a guy who changed his choke tubes 4 times during the 100 bird event! Ironically on our squad we had 3 of us that had fixed full chokes and the other shooter said he hadn't changed his choke tubes in 2 years! (At the time I was shooting a fixed choke Model 12).This guy was low man on the squad after all the choke changing. Bottom line; in trap one might be better off just staying with "what works" for you. Many years ago I bought a Beretta 682 single with a full choke. Immediately I sent it to Briley and they installed choke tubes. I shot the gun with the Briley full choke tube for 15 years until I gave the gun to my kid. Great investment. Choke tubes have their place; but if you only use the gun for trap, I would spend the money on an adjustable comb or whatever instead of choke tubes. (Especially on a single barrel). Chokes just make one second guess themselves. My opinion. Ed
     
  19. SeldomShoots

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    Personally, I love .030 constriction, (light full). I shoot it up close and way back with no problems. The only problem when I miss is me.

    John E.
     
  20. racer

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    HMB- instead of changing chokes at every station, might I suggest usings #9's on post 1&5,8's on 2&4 and obviously 71/2's in the middle. My barrel doesn't like 8.5's but yours might. (just ask it). It's too bad Browning doesn't offer poly chokes on XT's, I'd be the first one in line. Dan

    By the way, my singles average is 99% on the last 50 I shot.
     
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