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old reloading components???

Discussion in 'Uncategorized Threads' started by Leon47, Apr 22, 2008.

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  1. Leon47

    Leon47 Member

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    Hello,
    My friend's father gave me some old primers and wads. I would like to know what these can be substituted for. The primers are Federal 209(not 209A). The wads are Remington R12L(1 oz. wad). I would like to use these components safely. Could somebody kindly offer some advice? Thanks, Leon
     
  2. nipper

    nipper TS Member

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    The key question--or answer is what powder will you use??

    Bill
     
  3. Leon47

    Leon47 Member

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    I will be using Hodgdon Clays, looking for a 1oz. load somewhere between 1225-1250 fps., thanks for any ideas...
     
  4. KEYBEAR

    KEYBEAR Active Member

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    Federal 209 and 209-A are the same Primer . Federal had a problem with the 209 Primer and just change the number to 209-A as a fix. Same Primer .
     
  5. hmb

    hmb Well-Known Member

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    I do not believe thet are the same primer. I think the 209A is a hot primer and the 209 is mild. I would use Rem. 209 loading info. HMB
     
  6. leadspreader

    leadspreader TS Member

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    alf-99 fed 209 and 209a are NOT the same primer. there are several loads where you can change the primer ONLY to go from 23/4 dram to 3 dram load. the 209a is the hottest primer on the market and should be used according to a reputable loading manual. the fed 209 is comparable to the win 209.
     
  7. BRGII

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    ALF-99,

    As usual you put mouth in gear before engaging brain. In other words, you are full of bovine feces. The F209A and the F209 are completely different primers. The F209 is in the neighborhood of the W209. The F209A is much hotter. Both primers are and have always been excellent primers. BRGII
     
  8. alfermann66

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    When the 209A came on the market, there was a warning on the box not to use 209 loading data with it. Secondly, I believe Clays powder appeared after the 209A, so it's unlikely you'll find printed loading data for Clays and the 209. The only good answer I see here is "Call (contact) Hodgdons and ask them".

    Buz
     
  9. Jawhawker

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    LEON47, where are you from? If close enough I will trade you out of them.
     
  10. hmb

    hmb Well-Known Member

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    One of the standard rules of reloading is that when using a hot primer, like a Fed 209A, and no data was available, to drop your powder charge 1 grain. HMB
     
  11. Recoil Sissy

    Recoil Sissy Well-Known Member

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    Leon:

    I'm pretty sure Buzz is spot on. The old Fed 209 predated the availability of Clays. Hodgdon might be able to help with some data.

    If Hodgdon can't help and you don't resolve the issue another way, I've still have some old Hercules* reloader's guides with data for Fed 209 primers using Red Dot and Green Dot powders. Drop me a private message if you're interested.

    sissy
     
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