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Old powder???

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by ntgr8, Mar 31, 2012.

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  1. ntgr8

    ntgr8 Member

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    If I load a 12ga shell with 1oz shot and 17gr of old old old red dot will it go poof, bang or boom?? I am ok with poof or bang but I don't want BOOM.
     
  2. BD457

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    Funny you should ask...... I have some of the same stuff and posted almost the same question. The concensus:


    Load it and shoot it


    Mike
     
  3. hmb

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    Give it the smell test. HMB
     
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    Quite a few years ago - maybe before Alliant bought Hercules - there was a published report that the first lot of Red Dot ever made still performed as well as it ever did. Maybe Alliant will give us an updated report.

    The smell test is a good one. What you are smelling for is NO2 which can also be detected as reddish-brown fumes. It has a very acrid odor which is rather unlike the solvent smell of good powder.

    Johnpe
     
  5. Ajax

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    It'll go bang.

    Ajax
     
  6. BigM-Perazzi

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    Very, merry bang-bang...
     
  7. TOOLMAKER 251

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    It is not red dot that performed well from the 1st batch, it is unique.
     
  8. Auctioneer

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    Take a cap full of the powder and take a branch and light the end and put it to the powder. It will go up if good and will not hurt a thing. If it doesn't do a thing then throw it away.
     
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    I just got done with a 12 pound keg of 700X that I purchased in 1971 had about 8 pounds that had been around all those years--guess what it Works Fine!!!

    Chuck
     
  10. Ajax

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    You both could be right. The Hercules add in their manuals does not say what kind of powder, just indicates how old it is.

    I'm shooting powder from the 50's and 60's right now and have never had any that did not go bang. I check my loads over a chronograph and they are consistently where they are supposed to be.

    Ajax
     
  11. TOOLMAKER 251

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    Hercules introduced unique powder in 1900 and red dot in 1932.

    Added, The label on the glass container says unique.
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  12. Ajax

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    You can read that!!LOL

    Ajax
     
  13. TOOLMAKER 251

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    Yea, you can when you have the advertisement in front of your face along with "this powder placed in water on June 16, 1909"
     
  14. Auctioneer

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    As long as its kept dried its good. I will put a ? on it if there were water makes on the can.
     
  15. darr

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    I bought a bunch of Red Dot and Green Dot in an estate sell 2 years ago.It was from a local store that had been closed since 1981.The Red Dot was in the all metal can.I bet the powder was from the late 60's.No problem with it at all and the price was right.
     
  16. billyboy07208

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    I pulled powder from 8mm nazi era mfg duds,and loaded them right into new cases with the original bullet, and fired so many with no problems at all,to the point I got sick of pulling the friggin` things,and gave the rest away.
     
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