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Okay, just what is locktime?

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  1. starship

    starship TS Member

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    Still fairly new to all of this and in reading a recent thread about Ljutic part of the discussion was around lock time. I wasn't able to figure out just what was meant by that phrase..?

    Chuck
     
  2. ec90t

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    Chuck,

    Lock-time is the time between trigger pull/release and firing pin striking the primer.

    ec90t
     
  3. PA101_guy

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    Chuck,

    Locktime is the interval of time between the release of the trigger sear and ignition of the primer.....best way I can word it. Hope this helps.

    KEEP SMOKIN' EM.... Dave
     
  4. phirel

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    Dave, I suggest modification of your good definition to the time between release of the hammer, or other striking mechanism, by the sear or hook, and when the firing pin strikes the primer.

    Lock time is measured without primer ignition.

    Lock time, as you pointed out, is not the time between the beginning of pulling/releasing the trigger and when the gun goes off.

    Pat Ireland
     
  5. fearlessfain

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    lock time is something to talk about and nothing to be concerned about.
     
  6. Nebraskashooter

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    Lock time is some thing that you absolutely do NOT need to worry about but a gun manufacturer or two thought they would make some thing out of nothing to try and sell their guns.
     
  7. Hap MecTweaks

    Hap MecTweaks Well-Known Member

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    If precision trap shooting is a game of inches which it happens to be according to the pros, why wouldn't lock time be important? Try telling precision long range rifle shooters it isn't important, that too is a game of inches. Hap
     
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    If you want an example of sloooow lock time, borrow a Browning Recoilless and shoot a round with it.

    You'll understand then.
     
  9. ec90t

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    timb99,

    I was also thinking of a Beretta 390/391. I've never shot a recoiless.

    ec90t
     
  10. Hap MecTweaks

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    timb99, a fellow I know has always had a flinching problem. He thought maybe it would help if he shot one of those too. Sometimes when he'd fire it, he'd walk forward about 3 to 4 steps! Made his flinch even worse! Hap
     
  11. Nebraskashooter

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    I have shot my 1100 field, then my ljutic and then turned right around and shot a silver sietz with NO difference in scores. All 25's.
     
  12. KEYBEAR

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    Lock Time is not important to most shooters but Consistency is . Now don,t think you can go from a fast lock time to a slow and not see the difference . I agree with Jerry it,s all about timing and the difference will cost you targets . The shooters that think his gun is very fast never shot a Mach-1 or Silver Seitz .
    ALF
     
  13. Nebraskashooter

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    If you take the difference in time from the slowest(excluding that p.o.s. recoiless) to the fastest lock time you will see that is milliseconds at most. There is no way that it TRULY makes a difference!!! PERIOD!!
    Now if you fall into the brainwashing so you THINK it makes a difference then it probably does affect you but in reality it is the mind games you are playing with yourself and not the miniscule difference in lock time.
     
  14. Nebraskashooter

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    Alf; read my post right above yours. I have also shot whole ata events with all the guns without any difference in scores.
     
  15. phirel

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    Jerry- When you shoot an 1100 followed by a Mach 1, you would be comparing trigger travel time plus lock time. The trigger travel time is much greater than the lock time. I can't remember Neil's calculations on this question a few months ago. He did compare the fastest lock time to a very slow lock time and barrel movement speed at the maximum angle. I seem to remember that lock time differences would result in less than 1/16 of an inch barrel movement.

    Pat Ireland
     
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    If lock time make no diff., why do nearly all the Seitz shooters have to raise their POI 3"?
     
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    I shoot a low rib 90-T at appx. 70/30 poi. I shot the demo infinity last saturday with Dennis DeVault while doing a fitting and he had the gun set up to 105%. He didn't tell me it was shooting that high. I was breaking targets hard and center. I probably would not have believed it until I experienced it. Josh Andersen
     
  18. KEYBEAR

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    90T It may not have been shooting that high for you . But it was way higher then your 70/30 . I tell people a Silver Seitz needs to be 20% higher then what they are shooting now . I do believe that is one reason you see some about new Seitz guns selling used people buy them shooting to flat .

    ALF
     
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    Locktime matters in the world of photography...that's why rangefinder Leicas have, all else being equal, sharper negatives than those produced by an slr at an equal shutter speed. I've been behind the action with my Leica at Dodger games after I used my Nikon. Really, that happens, and the slow locktime of a digital camera can drive one to frustration when trying to catch the moment.
     
  20. Brian in Oregon

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    It's the time between when you file for divorce and your wife changes the locks on the house.
     
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