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Oh the irony... Dems like Ron Paul over Romney

Discussion in 'Politics, Elections & Legislation' started by Brian in Oregon, Jan 13, 2012.

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  1. Brian in Oregon

    Brian in Oregon Well-Known Member

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    We've been constantly told by various people here that Ron Paul won't appeal to votes from the left or center, but Romney will.

    But look at this surprise from NH.... Dems wrote in Ron Paul and he came in second to Obama on the Dem ticket. In fact, 18.9% of Dems wrote in Ron Paul.

    Maybe this "only Romney can win" mentality needs a rethink.

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    Ron Paul #2 in NH … Democratic Primary!

    Everybody already knows that Ron Paul placed second in the New Hampshire 2012 Republican Presidental Primary. But, at 7 o’clock tonight, the New Hampshire Secretary of State published the full results of the primary, including write-ins, and Ron Paul also won the #2 spot in the Democratic Primary.

    To be sure, sitting President Barack Obama bested Paul with a 49,480 to 2,273 tally, but that Ron Paul placed so highly in rank tells us a few things. First, nearly twenty-three hundred New Hampshire voters got out and drove to a polling station, knowing they were going to cast a write-in vote, knowing that it was in a primary where no delegates could be assigned to write-in votes, but as a straight protest vote.

    Given the insignificance of the voting act under these rules, it is reasonable to assume that many dissatisfied voters stayed home. The numbers bear this out. NH has 223,151 registered Democratic voters, and only 60,996 (27%) turned out. Secretary of State Bill Gardner had predicted a turnout of 75,000 voters in the Democratic Primary. Were write-ins valid for delegate assignment, the numbers would have likely been even higher.

    Second, Ron Paul is the second most popular candidate among Democrat voters in NH. This will be crucially important when the general election rolls around. Ron Paul already won 50% of the Independent vote in the Republican primary. The ability to build consensus and pull in Independent and other-party voters is essential to achieve a victory in the general election. Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, and Barack Obama are all alumni of the #2 spot in their respective New Hampshire primaries.

    Ron Paul’s strong support among Democrats can be tied to many issues. From his strong anti-war message to his assessment of the obvious failure of the drug war, his fight for racial equality in the justice system, his battle against inflation or his unique budget plan which fully funds Social Security, Medicare, and Veterans’ benefits (without relying on the continuing willingness of China to buy US debt as the other candidates’ plans do) – Ron Paul’s platform delivers what many Democratic candidates only pay lip service to.

    With MoveOn.org already having a campaign against Romney in the can portraying him as a guy who made his living closing down America’s manufacturing base – Romney doesn’t have have much to fall back on to appeal to Democratic voters. With that kind of characterization in a general election taking place in the worst economic period in several generations, Romney may only do well among the Republican Establishment that is currently delivering him wins in the Republican Primary.

    Dr. Paul’s media enemies like to call him ‘unelectable’ but the New Hampshire voters have belied their assessment.
     
  2. Calcutta John

    Calcutta John TS Member

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    Brian,
    Obviously the democrats would support Paul in N.H.,same as the do in many elections, to make the Winner look less dominant and give false hope to the uninformed electorate. Paul is a kook and unelectable.
     
  3. dave-320c

    dave-320c Well-Known Member

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    Ron Paul has better policies about bringing back freedom and liberty for the American individual, right-sizing the Federal Government, and promoting peace through a realistic foreign policy than any of the Republican and Democrat wonks running for President.
    He will end the crony capitalism/big government montage that is destroying the American way of life and our middle class.
    Thankfully, he will strongly influence the Republican platform for this election.
    His son will carry on his legacy.
    He has my vote.
    Again, just my opinion.
    Dave
     
  4. TinMan88

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    300 milliuon people in America and there is NO ONE more eligible than Romney/Soetoro?

    Ron Paul OWNS the issues! (and has for years)
     
  5. Calcutta John

    Calcutta John TS Member

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    Certainly a lot of people would be better than the current people striving to become the next president. However,only the republican nominee has a realistic chance of defeating Obama. It appears that nominee will be Romney, not the person I would have selected, however, if he is the nominee, we had better support him or we will have Obama finishing his transformation of America. God please save America.
     
  6. Brian in Oregon

    Brian in Oregon Well-Known Member

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    We've only had two... let me repeat... TWO... primaries and Romney is the nominee?

    Too many of you are drinking main stream media kool aid. Romney may or may not be the nominee, but the MSM has already decided he is.

    Super Tuesday will decide, unfortunately, because many of us out west will probably find our votes moot by the time we get to vote. But until Super Tuesday rolls around, declaring Romney the winner is premature.
     
  7. swifty

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    @Calcutta John

    http://youtu.be/MTx95Y5ZxEs

    Can you find anything wrong with these predictions? Which one of them makes him a "kook"?
     
  8. wolfram

    wolfram Well-Known Member

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    Ron Paul is a 'kook' compared with the polished politicians from both of the 'viable' parties. That is exactly why we need him to get him into the oval office.
     
  9. crusha

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    A hell of a lot of Democrats crossed over to vote for John McCain in the 2008 GOP primaries, in states that allowed it.



    Didn't help him much on election day.
     
  10. swifty

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    @wolfram: I just would like someone for once explain what makes him a "kook". Everything he does is sensible.
     
  11. Claydotter

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    Paul is a "Kook" because he wants to run things the way they SHOULD be run.

    Regards, Pete
     
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