1. Attention: We have put together a thread with tips and a tutorial video to help with using the new software. Please take a moment to check out the thread here: Trapshooters.com Tutorial & Help Video.
    Dismiss Notice

offensive posts

Discussion in 'Uncategorized Threads' started by gun fitter, Jul 4, 2008.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. gun fitter

    gun fitter TS Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    2,959
    When is a post offensive? I know that when insulted I stoop to the same level as the ignorant SOB that's attacking me. But how can we clean up the crap!

    At least I sign My name at the end of my posts! I have read the reminder at the end of the page about respect. I try not to be demeaning to anyone until they insult me. I'm sorry that I'm not man enough to turn the other cheek.

    Everyone here is a gun owner and shooter we should be embracing a forum that allows the free exchange of information not trying to close it down.
    Joe Goldberg
     
  2. Brian in Oregon

    Brian in Oregon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    25,238
    Location:
    Deplorable Bitter Clinger in Liberal La La Land
    The problem is, everyone's interpretation of "offensive" differs widely.<br>
    <br>
    Some claim a post is "offensive" if it merely differs from their political views. In this context, claim of a post being "offensive" is merely a way to try to censor views you don't agree with. <br>
    <br>
    Some posts are clearly and universally offensive to almost everyone.<br>
    <br>
    It's like the ruling on pornography - "I don't know how to define it, but I know it when I see it."<br>
    <br>
     
  3. Brian in Oregon

    Brian in Oregon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    25,238
    Location:
    Deplorable Bitter Clinger in Liberal La La Land
    It certainly is not civil discourse. As for offensive, it depends on the context. In a bar or on the docks, probably not. In church, definitely. On this website, yes, because it goes against the rules.
     
  4. gun fitter

    gun fitter TS Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    2,959
    Thank you for your input. I was wondering. Are the threads randomly monitored or only when it's sent to the help address?
     
  5. Brian in Oregon

    Brian in Oregon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    25,238
    Location:
    Deplorable Bitter Clinger in Liberal La La Land
    Speaking as a moderator on another website, there is no way for a moderator or even moderators to parse every thread and/or post. So yes, likely it is quite random.
     
  6. gun fitter

    gun fitter TS Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    2,959
    When is a post offensive? I know that when insulted I stoop to the same level as the ignorant SOB that's attacking me. But how can we clean up the crap!

    At least I sign My name at the end of my posts! I have read the reminder at the end of the page about respect. I try not to be demeaning to anyone until they insult me. I'm sorry that I'm not man enough to turn the other cheek.

    Everyone here is a gun owner and shooter we should be embracing a forum that allows the free exchange of information not trying to close it down.
    Joe Goldberg
     
  7. Brian in Oregon

    Brian in Oregon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    25,238
    Location:
    Deplorable Bitter Clinger in Liberal La La Land
    The problem is, everyone's interpretation of "offensive" differs widely.<br>
    <br>
    Some claim a post is "offensive" if it merely differs from their political views. In this context, claim of a post being "offensive" is merely a way to try to censor views you don't agree with. <br>
    <br>
    Some posts are clearly and universally offensive to almost everyone.<br>
    <br>
    It's like the ruling on pornography - "I don't know how to define it, but I know it when I see it."<br>
    <br>
     
  8. Brian in Oregon

    Brian in Oregon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    25,238
    Location:
    Deplorable Bitter Clinger in Liberal La La Land
    It certainly is not civil discourse. As for offensive, it depends on the context. In a bar or on the docks, probably not. In church, definitely. On this website, yes, because it goes against the rules.
     
  9. gun fitter

    gun fitter TS Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    2,959
    Thank you for your input. I was wondering. Are the threads randomly monitored or only when it's sent to the help address?
     
  10. Brian in Oregon

    Brian in Oregon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    25,238
    Location:
    Deplorable Bitter Clinger in Liberal La La Land
    Speaking as a moderator on another website, there is no way for a moderator or even moderators to parse every thread and/or post. So yes, likely it is quite random.
     
  11. Juno

    Juno TS Member

    Joined:
    Jan 13, 2008
    Messages:
    635
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Subject: Flinching on command
    From: gun fitter
    Email:
    Date: Fri, Jul 04, 2008 - 02:19 PM ET
    Website Address:

    Thanks BIGBORE. To all the A** holes out there. I'm not a trap shooter I'm a gunfitter and Stockmaker; when I'm at trap shoots I'm working! In 3 years I shot 1400 targets total. I guess I'm not a trap shooter. Many good shooters shoot that in a week. I shoot my field trial - sporting clay gun for everything including those trap targets. If I shoot it is probably because there's no business that day at the shoot because of cold, windy, rain, or all the above.

    In march of this year I shot 1 event at the Florida state shoot. The preliminary singles on Friday. Look up the score 98. That was the first targets in 4+ years. I did practice I shot about 125 targets the day before. prior to that I hadn't had a gun in my hands for 3 months and prior to that day and I doubt if I had shot 500 trap targets for the whole year prior to that. The next time I shot Targets was at the NJ State Shoot 89 I hadn't picked up the gun once in two months. For most shooters shooting frequently helps their scores. In my case the practice day in Florida helped my score by 9 targets.

    Why do the Idiot's equate scores with knowledge! Tiger Woods Swing Coach never played a day on the Pro Tour but he knows more about swinging a golf club than tiger. Who knows more about coaching Phil Jackson or Michael Jordan? Who's a better athlete? Are you seeing the flaw in your thinking.

    I've been building stocks for competive shooters for over 25 years. My first shooting instruction started 30 years ago with my mentor Rex Gage. Rex was the Head Shooting Master for Holland & Holland and the recognised Shotgun expert In Great Britan. Rex was not a competive shotgunner He was a national champion Rifle shooter. He still became the expert in the field of shotguns for the whole of GB. Why is a score the benchmark for shooting Knowledge.

    How many top shooters build custom stocks for themselves? I want to know? If they are do they make stocks for other shooters. J Brooks Do you make release triggers? Do you Build Stocks? Do you instruct Professionally. Are you a Gunfitter? I've done all of the above. If you have no expertise keep your yap shut! I enjoy discussing the subjects covered here but the personal attacks are getting out of hand.

    If you try to insult me I'm going to call you on it; if your an A** about it. If you really have a question about something or want to know about my experience than go to private messaging where this garbage belongs.

    It's obvious that I have forgotten more about shooting theory than some of you have options on the subject.

    If you have a theory and are willing to discuss it you should be letting us know so that we can decide for ourselves. Stop acting like your the only one with an opinion that could be correct. The world is not flat and I feel like I'm talking to a bunch of liberals about gun control. Why won't you listen and keep the insults and obtuse thinking to a minimum. The only thing I was saying is that a flinch is a symptom of a problem. If the Origional problem is not cured than a shooting with a release will only allow you to shoot up to the potential of your shooting with a flaw in your shooting execution. Cure the problem and the scores will go up higher. Add a release to a perfectly executed shot and the score will be the same. Some shooters prefer a release for reasons other than flinching and those are valid reasons to use one. Learn how to shoot with a release and you may shoot better scores. Shoot a release because you were flinching and you will be no better a shooter than just before your flinch started to effect your shooting. Just my opinion, Joe <br><br><br>Whether your responses are in retaliation as you say, or not. Judging from this I don't think you carry the right to call anyone elses post offensive. I think this is merely your way of trying to censor other's views that don't agree with you. Similar to what Brian said initially.<br>Juno
     
  12. Brian in Oregon

    Brian in Oregon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    25,238
    Location:
    Deplorable Bitter Clinger in Liberal La La Land
    Juno, you'll NEVER convince some people of this. Just look at the mob with pitchforks and torches who were always going after Rollin here. A lot of trapshooters are their own worst enemies, because their attitudes and behaviors are driving new blood away. But they must figure hey, at least the trap field will be less crowded, and who cares, because by the time the sport dies, I'll be dead. So the heck with everyone else.
     
  13. KEYBEAR

    KEYBEAR Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    3,222
    Kind of reminds me of that very important guy that sold wood blanks what was has name ?? He was very smart also had all the answers just ask him .

    Joe your no doubt a wonderful person and I,m positive in time everyone will love you .
     
  14. gun fitter

    gun fitter TS Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    2,959
    Alf Thank you! Those that Know me do! Most of them. I don't have all the answers nor will I ever. I learn something from every customer. I learn more every time I ask the right questions. Almost everything I know has been taught to me by others. I may apply it in a different way. Your coments are always welcome since their not an offensive personal attack.
    Joe
     
  15. gun fitter

    gun fitter TS Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    2,959
    Dog's for sale Bank account at Zero Car Broke I could use a favor.
    Joe
     
  16. Juno

    Juno TS Member

    Joined:
    Jan 13, 2008
    Messages:
    635
    Joe, now that was the most down to earth post I've seen from you. You didn't mention your wife, I noticed.

    Juno
    [​IMG]
     
  17. halfmile

    halfmile Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    15,639
    Location:
    Green Bay Wisconsin
    I have always maintained, (to the disagreement of others) that superb shooting ability was not necessary to be a good coach.

    The Olympic skaters are a good example of this concept. their coaches are not necessarily good skaters. They are good coaches.

    All the top shooters that sponsor clinics do not have the same teaching ability. Many of them want to pervert your shooting to their "style".

    Anyone who wants to insist a coach has to be a AAA shooter needs to eat more fish.

    HM
     
  18. Brian in Oregon

    Brian in Oregon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    25,238
    Location:
    Deplorable Bitter Clinger in Liberal La La Land
    Halfmile, my brother-in-law just missed the Olympic Ski Team. But he went on to become one of the coaches of the Women's Olympic Ski Team.<br>
    <br>
     
  19. gun fitter

    gun fitter TS Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    2,959
    Juno, that cartoon has a special place in my heart. My wife passed away this Feburary. She was truly my best friend and from the first day we met untill she passed away we saw each other or at least talked on the phone every day.
    She Actually told me the she was going to marry me the day after we met; it took five years but I finnaly married her. Best decision of my life. I really miss her!
    Joe
     
  20. Juno

    Juno TS Member

    Joined:
    Jan 13, 2008
    Messages:
    635
    I think Tron is transferring.
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.