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Odd projectile

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by leadman, Aug 29, 2008.

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  1. leadman

    leadman TS Member

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    Was wondering if anyone had info on this item. In my scrap lead collection I have a few round leadballs (mostly in the golfball size range). Many of them
    have a uniformly created "crater" on them. A depression, that his a half sphere.

    Any ideas?

    Jack
     
  2. Old Texas Marine

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    Jack,

    I suspect that is the place where the sprue was cut during the casting.

    HBT
     
  3. 5spd

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    Could also be a very recent cannon ball. I have seen new cannons (replicas 1/4 scale) ones at the local bang area that use a pounder ball about that size.
     
  4. leadman

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    HBT:

    A very reasonable assumption, using the details I supplied. Let me supply a few more.This "crater" like depression appears to have been purposely formed.
    Well made, perfectly circular.

    Now if someone just bangs off a sprue on a hot casting, a roundish depression could easily form. It would not however be as smooth(or as deep) as this one repeatedly is on a number of the castings.

    The center depth of the depression is just a hair shy of a half inch, in a slightly less then golf ball sized casting

    The diameter of the "crater" at the mouth is three quarters of an inch.

    Thanks for your input

    Jack
     
  5. TC

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    Cut sprue would not be uniform in appearance. Canister shot would likely have more than a single deformation. I would be inclined to think it was specifically manufactured. Pictures with something added for size perspective would be helpful. Tony
     
  6. ricks1

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    they were made to load in a cannon one on top another that way they got a long way out before they started to scatter they were shot 4 or 5 at a time . Next if they appear old keep them they will buy you all the lead you can use. You cand do same thing in a 410 shotgun with .37 round balls , put a deep dipple in 5 and stack they will stay together out to about 75yds rick
     
  7. Brian in Oregon

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    The larger the lead casting, the more it may shrink. The dimple you are seeing is probably the lead from the pour neck being sucked in as the ball cools. I'd seen this with plenty of lead and lead alloy castings.
     
  8. School Teacher

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    If the shot is golf ball size, it may be grape shot. Grape shot was arranged in a tier sitting on a wooden platform and wrapped in a canvas cloth. Grape shot had a greater range and was used to break up infantry formations and to disable ship rigging. The crater sounds like it was pressed into the soft lead shot to facilitate stacking.

    Both grape and canister shot were devastating at close range. I forget the conflict but a "whiff of grapeshot" was used to disband a mob.

    Ed Ward
     
  9. leadman

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    Thanks everyone for the observations and information. I apologise for the lack of pics. I am have an older digital camera that will not connect with my newer
    computer. When I finaly have this all worked out, I will repost and let you all get a look at these critters.

    Thanks

    Jack
     
  10. leadman

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    Odd projectile and an odd coincidence.

    I probably have a ways to go before I have a working camera at my disposal. As stated above, I will post photos at that time.......Meanwhile....

    I was searching coyote attack reports, which led me to an online newspaper page from Boston. On the same page were some video clips from other news reports. One caught me eye,fossilised Bigfoot prints found by a retired builder in Tenn.

    Below is the address for the video, and in the first few seconds he shows off some of his other finds. I was a little shocked to see something that looks identical to the item described in this thread! The indian childs play balls,
    specificaly the one he displays between his thumb and forefinger, with it's deeper dimple and golf ball size, is identical to my projectile in every way! Of course what I have is lead, and his is (presumably) stone. But at least you can all get a gander long before I come up with pics, (as well as have a little fun thinking about bigfoot).


    http://www.thebostonchannel.com/video/17418808/index.html

    Jack
     
  11. leadman

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    Is anyone able to point me in a direction, that would show me how to imbed/post
    a video directly into my post here.

    Thanks

    Jack
     
  12. leadman

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    I finaly have some good pics of the leadball. Please take a look and share any input.

    Thanks

    http://s596.photobucket.com/albums/tt44/brytestar8/?action=view&current=projectiledepressionup_edited.jpg


    http://s596.photobucket.com/albums/tt44/brytestar8/?action=view&current=projectilewithdime_edited.jpg


    http://s596.photobucket.com/albums/tt44/brytestar8/?action=view&current=projectilewithgolfball_edited.jpg
     
  13. setter

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    How about this way!

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    <a href="http://s596.photobucket.com/albums/tt44/brytestar8/?action=view¤t=projectilewithdime_edited.jpg" target="_blank">[​IMG]</a>

    <a href="http://s596.photobucket.com/albums/tt44/brytestar8/?action=view¤t=projectilewithgolfball_edited.jpg" target="_blank">[​IMG]</a>
     
  14. mixer

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    Lets see if this works


    Eric
     
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