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Obama's pay-as-you-go plan what a BS'er

Discussion in 'Politics, Elections & Legislation' started by Barrelbulge(Fl), Jun 9, 2009.

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  1. Barrelbulge(Fl)

    Barrelbulge(Fl) TS Supporters TS Supporters

    Aug 27, 2007
    West Central Florida

    Look at this turn around! This guy is so full of shxx. Now raise taxes to pay for programs.
  2. wolfram

    wolfram Well-Known Member

    Jul 17, 2007
    Too bad the big O plan doesn't work. I wish I could just borrow money from myself when I'm broke so I could 'pay as I go'. What am I missing here?
  3. drh08

    drh08 TS Member

    Jun 30, 2006
    come on guys, it's something so don't throw it away. I read the article, it basically says new spending money must be from cuts or tax increases.

    Everything has a starting point and maybe this is just a first step to stop the federal free flow of spending????
  4. bocephus

    bocephus Member

    Jan 29, 1998
    Shouldn't he have said this BEFORE he spent the country into bankruptcy? And all it tells me is to bend over because here come all those tax increases he promised he wouldn't do.......
  5. stokinpls

    stokinpls Well-Known Member

    Jan 29, 1998
    Here's the whole damn party in a nutshell. This guy has them pegged.
    "'The Axis of Idiots"

    Jimmy Carter, you are the father of the Islamic Nazi movement. You
    threw the Shah under the bus, welcomed the Ayatollah home, and then
    lacked the spine to confront the terrorists when they took our embassy
    and our people hostage. You're the runner-in-chief.

    Bill Clinton, you played ring around the Lewinsky while the terrorists
    were at war with us. You got us into a fight with them in Somalia and
    then you ran from it. Your weak-willed responses to the USS Cole and
    the First Trade Center Bombing and Our Embassy Bombings
    emboldened the killers. Each time you failed to respond adequately,
    they grew bolder, until 9/11/2001.

    John Kerry, dishonesty is your most prominent attribute. You lied
    about American Soldiers in Vietnam . Your military service, like your
    life, is more fiction than fact. You've accused our military of
    terrorizing women and children in Iraq . You called Iraq the wrong
    war, wrong place, wrong time, the same words you used to describe
    Vietnam . You're a fake.. You want to run from Iraq and abandon the
    Iraqis to murderers just as you did to the Vietnamese. Iraq, like
    Vietnam, is another war that you were for, before you were against it.

    John Murtha, you said our military was broken. You said we can't win
    militarily in Iraq . You accused United States Marines of cold-blooded
    murder without proof and said we should redeploy to Okinawa .
    Okinawa, John ? And the Democrats call you their military expert! Are
    you sure you didn't suffer a traumatic brain injury while you were off
    building your war hero resume? You're a sad, pitiable, corrupt and
    washed up politician. You're not a Marine, sir. You wouldn't amount to
    a good pimple on a real Marine's butt. You're a phony and a disgrace.
    Run away, John .

    Dick Durbin, you accused our Soldiers at Guantanamo of being Nazis,
    tenders of Soviet style gulags and as bad as the regime of Pol Pot,
    who murdered two million of his own people after your party abandoned
    Southeast Asia to the Communists. Now you want to abandon the Iraqis
    to the same fate. History was not a good teacher for you, was it? Lord
    help us! See Dick run.

    Ted Kennedy, for days on end you held poster-sized pictures from Abu
    Ghraib in front of any available television camera. Al Jazeera quoted
    you saying that Iraqi's torture chambers were open under new
    management. Did you see the news, Teddy? The Islamic Nazis
    demonstrated another beheading for you. If you truly supported our
    troops, you'd show the world poster-sized pictures of that atrocity
    and demand the annihilation of it. Your legislation stripping support
    from the South Vietnamese led to a communist victory there. You're a
    bloated, drunken fool bent on repeating the same historical blunder
    that turned freedom-seeking people over to homicidal, genocidal
    maniacs. To paraphrase John Murtha, all while sitting on your wide,
    gin-soaked rear-end in Washington.

    Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Carl Levine, Barbara Boxer, Diane Feinstein,
    Russ Feingold, Hillary Clinton, Pat Leahy, Barack Obama, Chuck
    Schumer, the Hollywood Leftist morons, et al, ad nauseam: Every time
    you stand in front of television cameras and broadcast to the Islamic
    Nazis that we went to war because our President lied, that the war is
    wrong and our Soldiers are torturers, that we should leave Iraq, you
    give the Islamic butchers -
    the same ones that tortured and mutilated American Soldiers - cause to
    think that we'll run away again, and all they have to do is hang on a
    little longer.

    It is inevitable that we, the infidels, will have to defeat the
    Islamic jihadists. Better to do it now on their turf, than later on
    ours after they have gained both strength and momentum.

    American news media, the New York Times particularly: Each time you
    publish stories about national defense secrets and our intelligence
    gathering methods, you become one united with the sub-human pieces of
    camel dung that torture and mutilate the bodies of American Soldiers.
    You can't strike up the courage to publish cartoons, but you can help
    Al Qaeda destroy my country. Actually, you are more dangerous to us
    than Al Qaeda is. Think about that each time you face Mecca to admire
    your Pulitzer.

    You are America 's 'AXIS OF IDIOTS.' Your Collective Stupidity will
    destroy us. Self-serving politics and terrorist-abetting news scoops
    are more important to you than our national security or the lives of
    innocent civilians and Soldiers. It bothers you that defending
    ourselves gets in the way of your elitist sport of politics and your
    ignorant editorializing. There is as much blood on your hands as is on
    the hands of murdering terrorists. Don't ever doubt that. Your frolics
    will only serve to extend this war as they extended Vietnam . If you
    want our Soldiers home as you claim, knock off the crap and try
    supporting your country ahead of supporting your silly political aims
    and aiding our enemies. Yes, I'm questioning your patriotism. Your
    loyalty ends with self. I'm also questioning why you're stealing air
    that decent Americans could be breathing.

    You don't deserve the protection of our men and women in uniform. You
    need to run away from this war, this country. Leave the war to the
    people who have the will to see it through and the country to people
    who are willing to defend it.

    Our country has two enemies: Those who want to destroy us from the
    outside and those who attempt it from within.

    Semper Fi,

    J. D. Pendry - Sergeant Major, USMC, Retired"
  6. jabrlin

    jabrlin TS Member

    Jan 29, 1998
    JD, well said & I beleave very true. JB
  7. waterhouselake

    waterhouselake TS Member

    Apr 2, 2006
    If BS was music, this dolt, Obama, would be a brass band.
  8. jimrich60

    jimrich60 Member

    Aug 15, 2007
    Congress enacted Pay-Go years ago and it is still in effect. Obamas call for such is simply grandstanding, trying to fool the public once again into believing he is really a fiscal conservative (and with the help of the MSM, it will probably work). But in the Pay-Go legislation Congress passed those years ago, the kicker is that they can "by-pass" the requirement for national security, emergencies, and a host of other reasons. Obviously everything usually falls into one of the exempted categories, so in effect, Pay-Go is never applied. Obamas scheme, even if Congress passed further legislation, would do no better. It is simply a shell game.

    Jim R
  9. Jerbear

    Jerbear TS Member

    Jan 29, 1998
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    <a href="http://s35.photobucket.com/albums/d184/Jerbear1098/potus/?action=view&current=ObamaSeal.jpg" target="_blank">[​IMG]</a>

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    enough said....
  10. Seitz Shooter

    Seitz Shooter Member

    Apr 10, 2007
    Three good ones!

    Adios, Dirk
  11. BT-100dc

    BT-100dc Active Member

    Nov 7, 2008
    What is missing is "YOU" pay as they (the thieves) go SPENDING. Taxation will be as you have never seen it. People well under $250,000 will be affected. I believe it will get down below $40,000. Whether it be a Value Added Tax or Cap & Trade, IT'S STILL A TAX. Now that's change we can believe in. Since the masses are asses, they deserve what they get. Only thing, I feel bad for the rest of us. BT-100dc
  12. PerazziBigBore

    PerazziBigBore TS Member

    Jan 29, 1998
    Well.. lets see.. If the put a tax on job provided health insurance.. Lets say it cost the employer $600 per month...$7200 per year for an old fart like me.. lets say I'm in the 25% tax bracket.. My yearly tax just went up $1800.. Now.. that's change I can't count on..

    I've never seen such confusion and stupidity in my life.. Please someone wake me up.. and tell me its a bad dream.. Not all Good.. Mike
  13. Bruce Specht

    Bruce Specht Well-Known Member

    Jan 29, 1998
    Near but not in chicago
    Bulge, Is this a suprise to any thinking voter? That "change" that everyone was so intent on having, you'll be looking under the couch cushions to find some.
  14. drh08

    drh08 TS Member

    Jun 30, 2006
    My hope would be if Tax as you go moves forward maybe people will realize the money he is spending. Think of all the people ( yes me included) that get health care from our employers and now pay taxes on it. I wish mine was only 1800 increase, but my family is on my plan so I would get to pay I am sure even more.
  15. Jerbear

    Jerbear TS Member

    Jan 29, 1998
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  16. Dahaub

    Dahaub Active Member

    Jan 29, 1998
    I've never seen a bunch of snitches bitch more about something they will be the first in line to accept. :) Free or cheaper health care will be a boon for the entire nation and you guys are bitching. Who do you think you are going to sway to think your way????????? Guys you really ought to look at what advantages the national healthcare system would do for our country before you party line complain like a gradeschool bully. Stokinpls why don't you run that retired Marines' bs thru snopes to see if it is true before you print it? One other thing------------did you hear the news about the last election????????The democrates won and America wins!!!!!
  17. 31 Pump

    31 Pump TS Member

    May 23, 2009
    Typical Democrat. Thinks health care will be free. Why don't you look at the health care of all the other countries that have socialized medicine and see how wonderful it is. The Democrats did win but America lost. This country and the liberties that our grandfathers fought and died for is disappearing before our very eyes. Selfish people like Dahaub who want something for "free" are willingly giving it away.

  18. Setterman

    Setterman Well-Known Member

    Feb 12, 2007
    Dahaub must not pay any taxes. If he did, he would realize his health care isn't going to be "free". And please explain how government run health care will be cheaper. If you can, your smarter than our congress, cause they can't.
    There will be layers and layers of additional government employees hired to "manage" the system, creating additional guaranteed votes for Obama and the Dems. Just what they want.
  19. drh08

    drh08 TS Member

    Jun 30, 2006
    Government run health care won't be cheaper, possibly more efficient if done correctly but not cheaper. Free is a bad term people use, sort of like buy 3 and get 1 free. We will be paying for health coverage out of taxes is all. The ones that get stuck are those that have health care provided by our employer currently. I am betting they won't be raising your pay the 5-10K the insurance costs them, however your taxes have no choice but to go up.

    Yes there are some positive things about universal health coverage also. No need to worry about health insurance if you loose your job would be one of them.
  20. Milkbone

    Milkbone TS Member

    Feb 8, 2009
    I have the utmost confidence that my government can run the country's health care system ever bit as they have Amtrak and the USPS. I'm sure they will run Chrystler and GM in every bit as competent a manner.
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