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Obamacare is killing Medicare

Discussion in 'Politics, Elections & Legislation' started by bigdogtx, May 26, 2011.

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  1. bigdogtx

    bigdogtx Well-Known Member

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    Of course it will,,,,the gov't needs everyone beholden to them,,,,especially big blocks of voters....
     
  2. trap72

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    PAUL RYAN IS THE ONE SET ON KILLING MEDICARE. ALL REPUBLICANS ARE ALSO SET ON KILLING OVERSIGHT ON BANKS, CREDIT CARDS AND WALL STREET. THE RYAN PLAN COULD COST A HUSBAND AND WIFE $12,000 A YEAR FOR MEDICARE, AT THAT COST THERE WILL BE LESS PEOPLE SIGNING ON TO MEDICARE. I KNOW THAT IS JUST FINE WITH ALL YOU RICH REPUBLICAN TRAPSHOOTERS.
     
  3. Setterman

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    Keeping Medicare on it's current course is like purposely taking a 1 hour plane flight with a 58 minutes of fuel. You hope you make it on your trip, but the next flight is screwed.

    The older voting block does not want be affected, but in reality the time to act is now.....before the plane crashes.
     
  4. bigdogtx

    bigdogtx Well-Known Member

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    Someone has to say "the emperor has no clothes",,,,maybe trap72 thinks that the money will just magically appear to PAY for the program AND all "entitlements" and the heck with the country....
     
  5. sliverbulletexpress

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    How wrong is to support medicare when we are sending Billions and Billions of dollars every year to support governments and people that hate us? You guys really want to cut health care to Americans that are in need so we can continue to spend money on foreign aid?
     
  6. bigdogtx

    bigdogtx Well-Known Member

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    Look at Ryan's plan,,,,it is NOT cutting Medicare,,,,MSM is lying to you....
     
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    After watching all the news yesterday over the subject, Ryan's plan was the answer to the current problem with medicare!!

    The Dems went on a media blitz to scare seniors into thinking otherwise.

    Because they (dumocrats) have no plan and medicare is bankrupt in just a few years because thats how they (dumocrats) want it!!

    EVERY dem asked yesterday about their plan to fix medicare, only responded with attacks on the Republicans and Ryan, NEVER answered the question put to them(dumocrats)

    Watch what they do not what they say!!
     
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    Obama and Osama. Which is America's biggest enemy?

    BB
     
  9. recurvyarcher

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    Well, seeing that Osama is dead....
     
  10. over/under

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    How's that hope and change working for ya?
     
  11. oz

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    Medicare????? obama is killing the USA. oz
     
  12. halfmile

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    Barker, there have been something like 1200 exemptions to Obamacare granted already. Including SEIU of course.

    How can it work if only half the people are in it?

    If you thought Part D drug plan was bad, hang on to your butt.

    HM
     
  13. daddiooo

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    The Obama Care "opt-out" companies and groups currently number over 2000.

    But the Dems cling to that like it's their holy grail. The debt be damned.

    Hell even a 3rd grade student who's average at math can figure out it'll

    bankrupt the country.
     
  14. jimrich60

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    No scandals under teh one's administration? What about:

    ATF runs guns into Mexico for the cartels (oh sorry, nothing to see here, move along)

    Black Panther voter intimidation (oh sorry, nothing to see here, move along)

    Illegal war and violation of the War Powers Act in Libya (oh sorry, nothing to see here, move along)

    Awarding the majority of GM assets to the unions and not the stock holders, etc in violation of established case law and bankruptcy laws (again, sorry, nothing to see here, move along)

    Refusal to defend U. S. Law, as passed by Congress in the Defense of Marriage Act (whether it is right or wrong, it is U.S. Law and the President is sworn to uphold the laws) Oh sorry, nothing to see here either, so move along.

    Illegal campaign contributions from foreign entities and countries, including Hamas and Hezbollah Oh, so sorry, nothing here either, so move along.

    Refusal to obey several U.S. Federal court rulings and a direct court order to stop stalling on drilling permits in the gulf. So so sorry, but nothing to see here, move along.

    Suing a state (Arizona) for simply trying to enforce federal immigration laws. Move along again.

    And the list could go on and on.

    BTW, doda, Obamacare is taking 500 billion from Medicare, not 50 billion. Since Medicare will be bankrupt in a few years even without Obamacare, what will cutting 500 billion from it do?

    Jim R
     
  15. grunt

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    Just speed things up I guess.
     
  16. mx2k33

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    There is a different strategy here. Democrats are more than willing to have it stay as-is. People under 55 will continue to fund it now and then never access it due to insolvency. By then, the seniors they scared into voting to keep it unchanged will be dead, those that really need it then but can't receive enough benefits will begin to cost-effectively die off, and save the government significant funds. Those healthy enough or young enough to persist will deal with "fixing" the problem with the new savings, new taxes, and a new government run crisis solving measure. That is the strategy. Win-win for liberals.
     
  17. jimrich60

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    Just a couple more "should be scandals" (exceeding any known scandal in our history I think):

    "Spending" more than a trillion dollars in "stimulus" money, with absolutely no accounting to the American taxpayer who has to pay it, and refusing all FOIA requests on how this money was spent, who got it, what for, etc.

    More than 2000 (that's thousand) waivers to obamacare, and counting. Almost all of which have gone to states and organizations which support obummer or have contributed to the democrats. Including many unions, especially SEIU, as well as many businessess and organizations in Nancy Pelousy's district in particular. Virtually no waivers granted to businessess in states which voted for McCain.

    Even obamacare itself. Passed in the dead of night, with virtually no one even being allowed to know what the bill said before it was passed. And done with extremely dubious (perhaps even illegal) senate maneuvers and tactics.

    The FCC, at obummers behest, passing regulations and other actions to control the internet and the airwaves, in direct defiance of congressional directives reminding the FCC that they simply did not have the power to so regulate.

    The EPA writing rules and regulations on carbon emissions, again in direct defiance of congressional directives that the EPA did not have and never had, the authority to do so. Again at obummers behest.

    Many of these, and the others mentioned earlier, are not merely "scandals" but are in fact blatantly illegal and/or unconstitutional acts by this administration. But God forbid they should ever be mentioned in the lamestream media. Or if they do get "mentioned" they are quickly suppressed with a "nothing to see here, move along" Nor do our congressional "representatives" of what ever ilk, seem interested in pursuing any of this, whether democrat or republican.

    God help the U.S.

    Jim R
     
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