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Discussion in 'Politics, Elections & Legislation' started by HSLDS, Jun 21, 2009.

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  1. HSLDS

    HSLDS Well-Known Member

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    I enclose the story in toto.

    God, I love this country...


    It Comes Down to This!
    Jim Kirwan
    6-18-9

    "In a move certain to fuel the debate over Obama's qualifications for the presidency, the group "Americans for Freedom of Information" has released copies of President Obama's college transcripts from Occidental College. Released today, the transcript indicates that Obama, under the name Barry Soetoro, received financial aid as a foreign student from Indonesia as an undergraduate at the school. The transcript was released by Occidental College in compliance with a court order in a suit brought by the group in the Superior Court of California. The transcript shows that Obama (Soetoro) applied for financial aid and was awarded a fellowship for foreign students from the Fulbright Foundation Scholarship program. To qualify for the scholarship, a student must claim foreign citizenship."

    This is the man now sitting in the oval office that we're talking about above. He is also a lawyer; that is a sworn officer of the courts system, and a member of the Bar that actually taught Constitutional Law in Illinois, before running for the office he now occupies.

    This immediately brings up a number of direct conflicts of interest that in themselves create several indefensible positions for the fraud that Barack Hussein Obama, formerly Barry Soetoro, truly appears to be. How could Obama the lawyer not know that he took grant money for financial aid, from the Fulbright Foundation that was intended only for foreign citizens? How then to square this with his supposed Naturalized American-citizen status that he claimed in order to run for president? He cannot be both things in the same person; especially not at the same time.

    Also Obama is a lawyer so how can he excuse himself, from lying under oath, either as a president or as a candidate; not-to-mention deceiving the public as to his actual qualifications for the office he now supposedly holds?

    "This document would seem to provide the smoking gun that many of Obama's detractors have been seeking. Along with the evidence that he was first born in Kenya and there is no record of him ever applying for US citizenship, this is looking pretty grim. The news has created a firestorm at the White House as the release casts increasing doubt about
    Obama's legitimacy and qualification to serve as president. When reached for comment in London, where he has been in meetings with British Prime Minister Gordon Brown, Obama smiled but refused comment on the issue."

    There are far more lawyers in America than almost any other profession-so how is it that as a professional body lawyers have remained silent on so many aspects of this quagmire? For instance what has the National Bar Association said about these apparent conflicts of interest between Obama's oath as a lawyer vs. his oath as the president? But there's an even more basic question which has to do with how does Obama balance the lies he routinely tells the world, as opposed to his duty as an officer before the National Bar of Justice? Internationally, our commander-in-chief has placed himself and his administration even further beyond the laws than even Cheney and George W. Bush dared to go-on top of all his campaign promises that have been massively shattered at almost every turn!

    "Britain's Daily Mail has also carried the story in a front-page article titled, "Obama Eligibility Questioned," leading some to speculate that the story may overshadow economic issues on Obama's first official visit to the U.K. In a related matter, under growing pressure from several groups,Justice Antonin Scalia announced that the Supreme Court agreed on Tuesday to hear
    arguments concerning Obama's legal eligibility to serve as President in a case brought by Leo Donofrio of New Jersey.

    This lawsuit claims Obama's dual citizenship disqualified him from serving as president. Donofrio's case is just one of 18 suits brought by citizens demanding proof of Obama's citizenship or qualification to serve as president."

    The interesting aspects of this quagmire concern the following: How many times has Barack Hussein Obama lied to get where he is today. If he was not a citizen; how was he able to pass the bar and take the oath to enforce the law that he was breaking by swearing to uphold the constitution of a country that he was not clearly a citizen of? When he ran for and won an office in the State Legislature and again when he ran for and won the office of US Senator for the State of Illinois-both those jobs require swearing an oath of office that, if his birth certificate was not valid; had to have been illegally held-yes?

    Moreover, as a lawyer now, and a former professor of Constitutional law: how can he continue to do the massively illegal things that he is doing each and every day as resident dictator from the oval office? Why has Obama the man, not been disbarred for cause? Also in matters of legality, the office has the White House Office of legal affairs that comes with the job – but as an officer of the courts: Obama is technically not allowed to run roughshod over all the settled laws of the United States-which he has been doing with intensity of late.

    Does Obama bear an even greater responsibility when as Commander-in-Thief he orders things like illegal torture and expanded illegal wire-taps; along with claiming for himself and the administration special privileges when it comes down to abiding by the laws or crushing them under the jack-boots of his 'administration's long term goals?

    Perhaps this glaring statistic might shed some real-time light on that topic?

    "Gary Kreep of the United States Justice Foundation has released the results of their investigation of Obama's campaign spending. This study estimates that Obama has spent upwards of $950,000 in campaign funds in the past year with eleven law firms in 12 states for legal resources to block disclosure of any of his personal records?"

    Mr. Kreep indicated that the investigation is still ongoing but that the final report will be provided to the U.S. Attorney General, Eric Holder.
    Mr. Holder has refused to comment on the matter".

    There is also the rumor that Michelle Obama's license to practice law in the State of Illinois was revoked-but so far at least no one seems to be able to get to the bottom of that additional bit of current presidential folklore.

    Why should not Obama be prosecuted for fraud against the people, and if this pans out, will this equal possible treason against the country; depending on how deeply his lies have gone into the blood and bone of the constitution that his directives have been aimed directly at, on how many different occasions?
     
  2. SirMissalott

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    Unfortunately, unfortunately it wouldn't matter!!
     
  3. Damifino

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    Pat's right. This (sadly) is a rouse. Do a search on "Americans for Freedom of Information"; you'll not find anything to support this claim.
     
  4. CharlieP

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    It's just another load of BS, disproven long ago, but that's all rubes like HSLDS have got. Pitiful.
     
  5. PerazziBigBore

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    Other than being American.. a bug sprayer needs more qualifications for his job than a President..if he uses certain chemicals in the treatment of your house..
     
  6. stokinpls

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    Here's what a real President is like. And he's french!



    President Nicolas Sarkozy said the Muslim burqa would not be welcome in France, calling the full-body religious gown a sign of the "debasement" of women.

    In the first presidential address to parliament in 136 years, Sarkozy faced critics who fear the burqa issue could stigmatize France's Muslims and said he supported banning the garment from being worn in public.

    "In our country, we cannot accept that women be prisoners behind a screen, cut off from all social life, deprived of all identity," Sarkozy said to extended applause at the Chateau of Versailles, southwest of Paris.

    "The burqa is not a religious sign, it's a sign of subservience, a sign of debasement — I want to say it solemnly," he said. "It will not be welcome on the territory of the French Republic."

    Dozens of legislators have called for creating a commission to study a possible ban in France, where there is a small but growing trend of wearing the full-body garment despite a 2004 law forbidding it from being worn in public schools.

    France has Western Europe's largest Muslim population, an estimated 5 million people, and the 2004 law sparked fierce debate both at home and abroad.

    Even the French government has been divided over the issue, with Immigration Minister Eric Besson saying a full ban would only "create tensions," while junior minister for human rights Rama Yade said she was open to a ban if it was aimed at protecting women forced to wear the burqa.

    The terms "burqa" and "niqab" often are used interchangeably in France. The former refers to a full-body covering worn largely in Afghanistan with only a mesh screen over the eyes, whereas the latter is a full-body veil, often in black, with slits for the eyes.

    A leading French Muslim group, the French Council for the Muslim Religion, has warned against studying the burqa, saying it would "stigmatize" Muslims.

    Sarkozy was due to host a state dinner Monday with Sheik Hamad Bin Jassem Al Thani of Qatar, where women wear Islamic head coverings in public — whether while shopping or driving cars
     
  7. bill1949

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    I wonder if Obama ever registered for Selective Service. Used to be if you didn't register when you turned eighteen you were ineligible for a Federal job or Federal student aid for college...Bill
     
  8. CharlieP

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    Here's bill1949 thinking.. The requirement to register ended in 1973 when Obama was 12.
     
  9. Milkbone

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    Charlie, you really made yourself look stupid this time. The requirement for 18 year old men to register for the draft is still in effect.
     
  10. CharlieP

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    Milkbone, you've got your head farther up your ass than bill949. The draft ended in 1973. Ended. Done. Finished, unless and until Congress reinstates it. Finding any peanuts up there to munch?
     
  11. tad houston

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    CharlieP,

    Please stop posting your self portrait. See the above link, or if it was too long for the system, cut and paste the following:

    http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=ed6948afcb41e010VgnVCM1000000ecd190aRCRD&vgnextchannel=2f719c7755cb9010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a1____

    and you will find this,

    "How Do I Register with Selective Service?

    What is Selective Service Registration?
    Selective Service registration allows the United States Government to maintain a list of names of men who may be called into military service in case of a national emergency requiring rapid expansion of the U.S. Armed Forces. By registering all young men, the Selective Service can ensure that any future draft will be fair and equitable.

    Federal law requires that men who are at least 18 years old, but not yet 26 years old, must be registered with Selective Service. This includes all male non-citizens within these age limits who permanently reside in the United States. Men with "green cards" (lawful permanent residents) must register. Men living in the United States without INS documentation (undocumented aliens) must also register. But men cannot register after reaching age 26."
     
  12. Remstar311

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    The draft ended but selective service registration is very real. Don't be too sure of yourself there charlie.
     
  13. TOOLMAKER 251

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    CharliePiece of s**t just joined trapshooters.com about 10 days ago. I think he is a gay still in the closet ACORN worker sent here to push his agenda. Charlie, you don't even own a shotgun so go back to the gay pride forum.
     
  14. grunt

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    My Grandson just turned 18 and registered on line.
     
  15. crusha

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    CharlieP does seem to have been proven quite the Village Idiot on this one.


    ...and to add humiliation to embarrassment - he even posted his picture so we'll recognize him when we see him!
     
  16. nipper

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    i sure hope you copied your post from somewhere, i have better things to do, thats what wrong with repukebulicans, you actually think there willl be a recall election?? no hanging chads this time though, you lose
     
  17. HSLDS

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    CharlieP thanks for the personal attack.

    You do not know me, you know nothing of my background, education, nor intelligence.

    I'd love to know what makes you believe me to be a rube? Now here's the rub...

    The article I posted was sent to me by a computer analyst for the Italian Carabinieri (somewhere between the FBI and the Secret Service) - he is a shooting buddy. THEY believe at least some portion of the article to be true.

    I was in fact directed to 'factcheck' or the like on this and was still told there was veracity within (he would not elaborate). Remember that one of the best ways to obscure the truth is to tie it to a verifiable lie.

    With the recent visit between President Obama and PM Berlusconi I find it interesting that the Italian government (at least some part of it) has interest in the validity of the office holder of the President of the United States.

    I'll sign my name and provide my e-mail so there is no anonymity

    David Delacato
     
  18. TOOLMAKER 251

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    This is an international symbol for CharlieP (_?_) which stands for a real dumb ass.
     
  19. Damifino

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    I am about the same age as Obama. I had to register when I turned 18. Did it on my birthday at the post office.
     
  20. CharlieP

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    "Subject: Obama took aid meant for
    From: HSLDS
    Email: XXmail@delacato.usXX
    Date: Tue, Jun 23, 2009 - 05:38 AM ET
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    CharlieP thanks for the personal attack.

    You do not know me, you know nothing of my background, education, nor intelligence.

    I'd love to know what makes you believe me to be a rube? Now here's the rub...

    The article I posted was sent to me by a computer analyst for the Italian Carabinieri (somewhere between the FBI and the Secret Service) - he is a shooting buddy. THEY believe at least some portion of the article to be true.

    I was in fact directed to 'factcheck' or the like on this and was still told there was veracity within (he would not elaborate). Remember that one of the best ways to obscure the truth is to tie it to a verifiable lie.

    With the recent visit between President Obama and PM Berlusconi I find it interesting that the Italian government (at least some part of it) has interest in the validity of the office holder of the President of the United States.

    I'll sign my name and provide my e-mail so there is no anonymity

    David Delacato "

    Of course you're a rube. And a fool and a dolt too. Here's why: You post up a serious accusation, an accusation which, if true, would disqualify him, against the President of the United States, and you offer zero, nada, nothing whatsoever in the way of proof. You claim he applied for a loan, right? Where's the loan application? Where? Nowhere? Go ahead, post a verified copy. You know, a certified copy, a notarized copy. What, you have none? Your rube source has none? You can't find anyone with a copy? Where's the original? You don't know? Of course neither of you do. It doesn't exist.

    You're both rubes. Carabinieri? That's supposed to impress someone? Yeah, right, just like the FBI has no rubes. You and your WOP pal are both rubes and lie-spreaders.

    I'm calling you out. - Show the proof. Here. Now.

    What, you have no proof other than an email which originated where? You don't even know, do you, rube?

    Rube, dolt, moron, fool, liar, idiot - take your choice.
     
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