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Obama might pursue criminal charges against Bush

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  1. Joe Potosky

    Joe Potosky Well-Known Member

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    Obama might pursue criminal charges against Bush

    Biden says criminal violations will be pursued

    · Democrats have issued subpoenas to Bush aides
    · 3 staffers have been held in contempt of Congress

    Democratic vice-presidential nominee Joe Biden said yesterday that he and running mate Barack Obama could pursue criminal charges against the Bush administration if they are elected in November.

    Biden's comments, first reported by ABC news, attracted little notice on a day dominated by the drama surrounding his Republican counterpart, Alaska governor Sarah Palin.

    But his statements represent the Democrats' strongest vow so far this year to investigate alleged misdeeds committed during the Bush years.

    "If there has been a basis upon which you can pursue someone for a criminal violation, they will be pursued," Biden said during a campaign event in Deerfield Beach, Florida, according to ABC.

    "[N]ot out of vengeance, not out of retribution," he added, "out of the need to preserve the notion that no one, no attorney general, no president -- no one is above the law."

    Obama sounded a similar note in April, vowing that if elected, he would ask his attorney general to initiate a prompt review of Bush-era actions to distinguish between possible "genuine crimes" and "really bad policies".

    "f crimes have been committed, they should be investigated," Obama told the Philadelphia Daily News. "You're also right that I would not want my first term consumed by what was perceived on the part of Republicans as a partisan witch hunt, because I think we've got too many problems we've got to solve."

    Congressional Democrats have issued a flurry of subpoenas this year to senior Bush administration aides as part of a broad inquiry into the authorisation of torturous interrogation tactics used at the Guantanamo Bay prison camp.

    Three veterans of the Bush White House have been held in criminal contempt of Congress for refusing to respond to subpoenas: former counsel Harriet Miers, former political adviser Karl Rove, and current chief of staff Josh Bolten. The contempt battle is currently before a federal court.

    Guardian News and Media Limited 2008
     
  2. crusha

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    No, it won't...anyone for whom is a red-meat issue, is already voting for them anyway. It might get some donors to re-open their pocketbooks, but that's about all.
     
  3. Brian in Oregon

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    Why not? Liberals have been pushing for Nuremberg style trials for global warming doubters.
     
  4. hoggy

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    Again the idiot shows how stupid he really is. Why bother with what's past. He's going to be way over his head just trying to get away with converting the country to Islam.
     
  5. Joe Potosky

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  6. JBrooks

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    What is really sad is that the guy asking the question and most of the audience are jews. Obama will sell Israel right down the drain. ANY jew who would vote for Obama is a complete fool.
     
  7. Shooting Coach

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    I have wondered if the Muslim influence in Obama's life caused him to not pick Hillary as his running mate. Any woman having influence or power in politics is generally verboten in the traditional Muzzie culture.

    WAKE UP, PEOPLE. I hope the libs aren't willing to throw their country under the bus to get a "person" in the Democratic Party in the Oval Office.

    For those of you naive enough to insist on voting Democrat at this time in history, there will undoubtedly be a better candidate in 2012.
     
  8. bigdogtx

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    Now we see the difference in what the Democrats and Republicans. The Democrats are interested in "tearing down" and Repubs are interested in "building up" our country. Just look at the conventions, dems talk about how BAD this country is and how we should be like Europe and the repubs talk about picking yourself up by your boot straps and by working harder can accomplish anything. So sad.
     
  9. stokinpls

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    Maybe Obama should go back to Chi-Town and try his luck there.

    "Nearly 125 Shot Dead In Chicago Over Summer
    Total Is About Double The Death Toll In Iraq
    CHICAGO (CBS) ¯ An estimated 123 people were shot and killed over the summer. That's nearly double the number of soldiers killed in Iraq over the same time period.

    Information from wire service reports and the Chicago Police Major Incidents log indicated that 123 people were shot and killed throughout the city between the start of Memorial Day weekend on May 26, and the end of Labor Day on Sept. 1.

    According to the Defense Department, 59 soldiers were killed in combat in Iraq. About the same number were killed in Afghanistan over that same period.

    In the same time period, an estimated 245 people were shot and wounded in the city.

    The South Side's Englewood District, which includes the Englewood and West Englewood neighborhoods on the city's South Side, fared the worst over the summer. A total of 14 people were shot dead there, and 48 were shot and wounded.

    The next highest totals came in the Grand Crossing District, which includes the South Shore, Woodlawn, Park Manor and Grand Crossing neighborhoods on the South Side, 12 people were killed and 31 were injured.

    Also hit severely by gun violence over the summer was the Ogden District – which includes the Near Southwest Side's Lawndale and Little Village neighborhoods – where 10 people were killed and six were injured. The South Chicago District on the Southeast Side saw nine people killed and 11 injured, almost all concentrated in the South Chicago and Avalon Park neighborhoods at the north end of the district. The West Side's Austin District saw also saw nine people killed and 12 injured, while the Far South Side's Calumet District – including the Roseland, Fernwood and Pullman neighborhoods – saw eight killed and 20 injured.

    Breakdown of summer shootings by police district:
    • District 1 – Central (Loop, West Loop, Near South Side): 1 dead, 4 injured
    • District 2 – Wentworth (Washington Park, Bronzeville, Fuller Park): 1 dead, 14 injured
    • District 3 – Grand Crossing (South Shore, Woodlawn, Park Manor, Grand Crossing) 12 dead, 31 injured
    • District 4 – South Chicago (Far Southeast Side to Indiana state line): 9 dead, 11 injured
    • District 5 – Calumet (Roseland, Fernwood, West Pullman): 8 dead, 20 injured
    • District 6 – Gresham (Auburn-Gresham, Chatham): 7 dead, 13 injured
    • District 7 – Englewood (Englewood, West Englewood: 14 dead, 48 injured
    • District 8 – Chicago Lawn (most of the Southwest Side): 7 dead, 14 injured
    • District 9 – Deering (Back of the Yards, Bridgeport, Canaryville, Brighton Park): 4 dead, 19 injured
    • District 10 – Ogden (Little Village, much of North Lawndale): 10 dead, 6 injured
    • District 11 – Harrison (Garfield Park, parts of North Lawndale): 8 dead, 18 injured
    • District 12 – Monroe (Near West Side): 1 dead, 3 injured
    • District 13 – Wood (West Town, Ukrainian Village, parts of Humboldt Park): 4 dead, 2 injured
    • District 14 – Shakespeare (Wicker Park, Bucktown, Logan Square, parts of Humboldt Park): 6 dead, 1 injured
    • District 15 – Austin (North and South Austin): 9 dead, 12 injured
    • District 16 – Jefferson Park (Far Northwest Side from Portage Park to O'Hare International Airport): 0 dead, 0 injured
    • District 17 – Albany Park (Albany Park, Irving Park, Avondale): 2 dead, 0 injured
    • District 18 – Near North (Lincoln Park, Gold Coast Magnificent Mile, Near North Side): 1 dead, 4 injured
    • District 19 – Belmont (Lakeview, Roscoe Village, Lincoln Square, North Center): 1 dead, 1 injured
    • District 20 – Lincoln (Edgewater, Andersonville, Rosehill Cemetery, Budlong Woods): 0 dead, 1 injured
    • District 21 – Prairie (Hyde Park, Kenwood Oakland-Douglas, Lake Meadows, Chinatown): 2 dead, 1 injured
    • District 22 – Morgan Park (Beverly, Morgan Park, Mt. Greenwood): 6 dead, 4 injured
    • District 23 – Town Hall (East Lakeview, Uptown): 1 dead, 4 injured
    • District 24 – Rogers Park (East and West Rogers Park): 2 dead, 2 injured
    • District 25 – Grand Central (Belmont-Cragin, Kelvyn Park, Hermosa, Galewood): 7 dead, 12 injured

    Adam Harrington, cbs2chicago.com"
     
  10. H82MIS

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    Man those strict Chicago guns laws are really working good,,,

    I say drop another 1000 handguns on the streets and let them have at it,,more than likely all crack heads, something like East St. Louis Ill.
     
  11. Little Dog

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    Actually, Coach, the reason BO didn't pick Hillary is because she's a bitch on wheels.
     
  12. gun fitter

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    prosecute the president I think not! Would be opening up a can of worms and leaving himself up for the same not to mention shady Joe B.
    Joe
     
  13. alfermann66

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    Just another Dem. "Dog and Pony Show". They dare not start it for real because most of them are as dirty as two week old shorts and what goes around comes around.

    Buz
     
  14. Brian in Oregon

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    "What is really sad is that the guys on this websites are gunowners. Obama will sell gunowners right down the drain. ANY gunowner who would vote for Obama is a complete fool."<br>
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  15. Brian in Oregon

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    goose2, try reading the rules. Political discussions are not banned here. You are free to start a trapshooting website of your own and ban political discussions on it.
     
  16. Dicksie

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    Obama, the guy whose half brother lives on one dollar a DAY in Kenya or somewhere else in Africa.....nice, huh? I always wondered about his name, which was also his fathers name, but I never thought it through. This is what Jack Wheeler has to say about him.

    Jack Wheeler is a brilliant man who was the author of Reagan's strategy to break the back of the Soviet Union with the star wars race and expose their inner weakness. For years he wrote a weekly intelligence update that was extremely interesting and well structured and informed. He consults(ed) with several mega corporations on global trends and the future, etc. I think he is in semi-retirement now. He is a true patriot with a no-nonsense approach to everything. He is also a somewhat well known mountain climber and adventurer.

    Subject: Dr. Jack Wheeler Regarding Obama

    Written by Dr. Jack Wheeler
    The O-man, Barack Hussein Obama, is an eloquently tailored empty suit. No resume, no accomplishments, no experience, no original ideas, no understanding of how the economy works, no understanding of how the world works, no balls, nothing but abstract empty rhetoric devoid of real substance.

    He has no real identity. He is half-white, which he rejects. The rest of him is mostly Arab, which he hides but is disclosed by his non-African Arabic surname and his Arabic first and middle names as a way to triply proclaim his Arabic parentage to people in Kenya. Only a small part of him is African Black from his Luo grandmother, which he pretends he is exclusively.

    What he isn't, not a genetic drop of, is 'African-American,' the descendant of enslaved Africans brought to America chained in slave ships. He hasn't a single ancestor who was a slave. Instead, his Arab ancestors were slave owners. Slave-trading was the main Arab business in East Africa for centuries until the British ended it.

    Let that sink in: Obama is not the descendant of slaves; he is the descendant of slave owners. Thus he makes the perfect Liberal Messiah.

    It's something Hillary doesn't understand - how some complete neophyte came out of the blue and stole the Dem nomination from her. Obamamania is beyond politics and reason. It is a true religious cult, whose adherents reject Christianity yet still believe in Original Sin, transferring it from the evil of being human to the evil of being white.

    Thus Obama has become the white liberals' Christ, offering absolution from the Sin of Being White. There is no reason or logic behind it, no faults or flaws of his can diminish it, no arguments Hillary could make of any kind can be effective against it. The absurdity of Hypocrisy Clothed In Human Flesh being their Savior is all the more cause for liberals to worship him: Credo quia absurdum, I believe it because it is absurd.

    Thank heavens that the voting majority of Americans remain Christian and are in no desperate need of a phony savior.

    His candidacy is ridiculous and should not be taken seriously by any thinking American.
     
  17. JH

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    Left-wing atonement for the sin of "whiteness" is indeed the driving force for many urban/suburban "lost souls" who usually embark in imagined "rescue fantasies" to give meaning and affirm their pained existence.

    These people are not connected to family. Have no personal "centerdness." They live in an imaginary world of victimization/persecution/rescue. Roles are reversed in their perceptions of reality: Sadistic killers are victims of the judicial system. The people they murdered are quickly forgotten. Babies can be aborted yet serial killers should continue to live. Wolves are good and prey animals are expendable. Traditional families are bad but "partnerships" are good. Terrorist civil rights are more important than damage done to our country.
    We are dealing with people who seek to change our value system to a form of left wing schizophrenia.

    These confused, troubled individuals form much of the base for the opportunist Welfare Messiah and his narcissistic crony. They seek to impose their bizarre value system on the rest of us. Vote McCain/Palin or your children will be exposed to San Francisco-style "alternative value systems." This election is a major battle in the CULTURE WAR.
     
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