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Obama-ism....Great cartoon from 1948

Discussion in 'Politics, Elections & Legislation' started by GunDr, May 3, 2009.

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  1. GunDr

    GunDr Well-Known Member

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    Amazing how some can see so far into the future.


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  2. atashooter

    atashooter Member

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    omg... that was Great !!!
     
  3. stokinpls

    stokinpls Well-Known Member

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    Phonier than Kerry,

    Dumber than Bush......

    "When he has a plan, he can come back and ask for the money."

    Fomr WSJ:

    By GREG HITT

    WASHINGTON -- Top House Democrats raised tensions with the White House on a key foreign policy goal, rebuffing a request for funding to begin closing the U.S. prison camp in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

    President Barack Obama has sought $80 million to begin the process of closing the controversial detention facility, as part of broader legislation needed to continue funding for the U.S.-led wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    Unveiling the House version of war spending bill, House Appropriations Chairman David Obey (D., Wisc.) didn't include the funds, complaining that the administration has not yet developed a clear plan to wind down operations at Guantanamo and relocate the detainees, either abroad or in the U.S.

    "When they have a plan, they're welcome to come back and talk to us," Mr. Obey said.

    Mr. Obama has issued an executive order ordering the facility be shut down in one year. The administration still has some authority to shift dollars around the budget to help begin the process. But Mr. Obey suggested a "concrete plan" will be needed before lawmakers approve any direct funding to shutter the facility.

    The White House had no immediate comment on Mr. Obey's bill.

    The war funding bill unveiled by Mr. Obey totals $94.2 billion, a little more than $9 billion above what was sought by the White House. The bulk of the funds would to carry out Mr. Obama's plans to begin drawing down U.S. troop levels in Iraq, while beefing up U.S. military operations in Afghanistan, which has seen a sharp spike in Taliban-led violence.

    The legislation also includes more than $2 billion requested by the White House for Pakistan, funding economic aid and counterinsurgency operations. President Obama plans to meet this week with the presidents of Pakistan and Afghanistan at the White House.

    Mr. Obey included in the bill a set of broad "standards of performance" to measure progress in Pakistan and Afghanistan. The bill would require the Obama administration to report back in a year on the success of counterinsurgency efforts and the ability of those countries to control territory within their borders, among other things.

    The administration had urged Congress not to attach strings to funding in the bill, and vowed to develop its own set of "benchmarks" to measure progress.

    Mr. Obey said the president deserves "the benefit of the doubt," but voiced reservations that Mr. Obama's plans to stabilize Pakistan and Afghanistan. "I'm dubious," he said.

    The bill doesn't specifically tie funding to any one of the goals outlined in the bill. Still, Mr. Obey said he hopes for a "fish or cut bait" report from the White House, and stressed his hope that Congress "would exercise its independent judgment" about whether those goals are being met. "I'm very doubtful the policy can succeed," he said.

    The legislation is expected to be brought up for a vote within the House Appropriations Committee Thursday, and could be on the House floor next week. The Senate is expected to begin action next week on the war spending request.

    Write to Greg Hitt at greg.hitt@wsj.com "
     
  4. tad houston

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